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Post by Bobette Fri May 19, 2017 7:56 pm

Thanks to @LeapofFaith for noticing these had gone up:





FWIW, Lily's was posted first.  I think in the past F1s are usually last?

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Post by LeapofFaith Fri May 19, 2017 7:58 pm

@Bobette thanks for bringing them over! I think in the bach au Nikki was last posted question but not sure about the past nz seasons sorry....
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Post by Bobette Fri May 19, 2017 8:06 pm

OK great I may be about the posting order then.  LOVED the videos I have to say!  

Both girls have a great sense of humour which fits with what he said he was looking for.  Actually, Zac said his celebrity crushes were Jennifer Lawrence and Emily Blunt and watching these videos, Lily reminded me of Jennifer Lawrence with her brash, tomboyish humour and Viarni of Emily Blunt with her more reserved/slightly awkward nature.  

Can't wait to see who he picks and hopefully we'll get a whole season of the F2 as Bachelorette!  I think both girls would make a fantastic Lead.
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Post by Bobette Fri May 19, 2017 8:08 pm

ps Can anyone pick up any clues with the music in the videos? I'm not good with remembering how the F1 music goes from past seasons but I know there are others around here who have a great ear for that kind of thing.
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Post by 4health Fri May 19, 2017 8:08 pm

@Bobette when I watch those moments I find it very interesting that Viarni really didn't have much shown. We didn't see them on the rowing boat, the massage etc. Plus, they didn't show any of the CP chats because she really didn't have any that were shown. Since I am not really sure who is the production team and what they have done in the past etc. but during these moment videos do they hide the F1 moments or highlight them? IMO Lily's was trying to show all their moments and Viarni they didn't.

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Post by Bobette Fri May 19, 2017 8:13 pm

4health wrote:@Bobette when I watch those moments I find it very interesting that Viarni really didn't have much shown.  We didn't see them on the rowing boat, the massage etc.  Plus, they didn't show any of the CP chats because she really didn't have any that were shown.   Since I am not really sure who is the production team and what they have done in the past etc. but during these moment videos do they hide the F1 moments or highlight them?  IMO Lily's was trying to show all their moments and Viarni they didn't.  

Historically I believe the F1 is hidden so if Viarni is F1 that would fit with the usual scenario, but with Jordan's season being a bit of a disappointment (IMO) they may have gone with a more in-your-face edit this time to get viewers back on board, while showing enough "good bits" of the F2 to ensure her popularity if she goes on to be Bachette.
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Post by robinvi Fri May 19, 2017 8:24 pm

Bobette wrote:
4health wrote:@Bobette when I watch those moments I find it very interesting that Viarni really didn't have much shown.  We didn't see them on the rowing boat, the massage etc.  Plus, they didn't show any of the CP chats because she really didn't have any that were shown.   Since I am not really sure who is the production team and what they have done in the past etc. but during these moment videos do they hide the F1 moments or highlight them?  IMO Lily's was trying to show all their moments and Viarni they didn't.  

Historically I believe the F1 is hidden so if Viarni is F1 that would fit with the usual scenario, but with Jordan's season being a bit of a disappointment (IMO) they may have gone with a more in-your-face edit this time to get viewers back on board, while showing enough "good bits" of the F2 to ensure her popularity if she goes on to be Bachette.

I agree @bobette they could be highlighting V cute and funny side. Lily could now have the physical edit (lots of kissing in that video) that Dani got, now that claudia is out. But I see the romanic in Zac and Lily's video. All I can say is in my opinion production edited them like that for a reason.
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Post by 4health Fri May 19, 2017 8:32 pm

Bobette wrote:
4health wrote:@Bobette when I watch those moments I find it very interesting that Viarni really didn't have much shown.  We didn't see them on the rowing boat, the massage etc.  Plus, they didn't show any of the CP chats because she really didn't have any that were shown.   Since I am not really sure who is the production team and what they have done in the past etc. but during these moment videos do they hide the F1 moments or highlight them?  IMO Lily's was trying to show all their moments and Viarni they didn't.  

Historically I believe the F1 is hidden so if Viarni is F1 that would fit with the usual scenario, but with Jordan's season being a bit of a disappointment (IMO) they may have gone with a more in-your-face edit this time to get viewers back on board, while showing enough "good bits" of the F2 to ensure her popularity if she goes on to be Bachette.

Please help me understand why the off balance of moments with these videos.  I don't remember past seasons so any information to help would be great.  

Lily's video
Zac speaks about the relationship - 4 times
3 VO and 1 ITM

Kisses - 6

Viarni's video
Zac 1 VO - "She's stunning"
Nothing of ZAC talking about relationship
Viarni - 2 PI's and 1 ITM

Kisses - 2

Comparing the videos one was from Zac's perspective and the other is from the girl's persperctive IMO

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Post by Bobette Fri May 19, 2017 8:49 pm

@4health, I cannot explain anything Bachelor New Zealand - Season 3 - Zac Franich - Social Media - Media - *Sleuthing Spoilers* #2 - Page 27 3806527698

However the different tones in the videos do remind me of Matty and Lee's from the last AU Bachette.  The videos are still up on their Facebook page if you have the time/inclination to do a comparison: https://www.facebook.com/BacheloretteAU/

I won't embed them since I don't want to relive the trauma.  giggling
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Post by 4health Fri May 19, 2017 9:04 pm

Bobette wrote:@4health, I cannot explain anything Bachelor New Zealand - Season 3 - Zac Franich - Social Media - Media - *Sleuthing Spoilers* #2 - Page 27 3806527698

However the different tones in the videos do remind me of Matty and Lee's from the last AU Bachette.  The videos are still up on their Facebook page if you have the time/inclination to do a comparison: https://www.facebook.com/BacheloretteAU/

I won't embed them since I don't want to relive the trauma.  giggling

@bobette I did go an re-watch Georgia's moment videos of the two guys.    I have to say that I remembered correctly that the F3 was her hardest goodbye.  It is all over the FB page just like Claudia is.  But, as to the videos I have to say that each video was VO's of Georgia talking about each of her men.   She said that Matty's relationship was "slow burn" and Lee's was instant from the start.  

Matty's video
Georgia's VO talking about their relationship
7 VO's no ITM or PI

Kisses - 2

Lee's video
Georgia's VO talking about their relationship
6 VO's no ITM or PI

Kisses - 2

So if I make a comparison to Georgia's season to this season her season highlight videos of her F2 guys were pretty even and made it seem that they were very close/tied that it was close.  Zac's season I don't even see the videos as being close in comparison at all.  Lily's video was Zac highlighting the relationship IMO.      What I also find interesting and confusing is in Viarni's video and also highlighting of each girl before F3 RC that Zac has not commented at all on Viarni and his relationship.  He has not mentioned how their relationship has grown and developed.  He has only focused on how stunning, beautiful she is.   Just before F3 RC on the highlight of each girl he states in VO about Claudia and seeing a relationship with her and he also states about a relationship with Lily but nothing about Viarni.  Not even how he sees them in the future.  The same with the video you see Zac in am ITM from Lily's FD that their relationship has been building and growing.   There is absolutely nothing of Viarni's relationship building and how he feels just the scenes of him saying "I like you".  I am so confused if Viarni is F1.

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Post by LeapofFaith Fri May 19, 2017 9:14 pm

Yeah I agree with Lily's video seemed to be longer and show more of the relationship as it progressed and Viarnis was so short and not as romantic but showed more of the fun side IMO .... idk what to make of it but I hope in the end all 3 are happy and I would so love for NZ to make the f2 the bachelorette
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Post by Bobette Fri May 19, 2017 9:19 pm

4health wrote:
Bobette wrote:@4health, I cannot explain anything Bachelor New Zealand - Season 3 - Zac Franich - Social Media - Media - *Sleuthing Spoilers* #2 - Page 27 3806527698

However the different tones in the videos do remind me of Matty and Lee's from the last AU Bachette.  The videos are still up on their Facebook page if you have the time/inclination to do a comparison: https://www.facebook.com/BacheloretteAU/

I won't embed them since I don't want to relive the trauma.  giggling

@bobette I did go an re-watch Georgia's moment videos of the two guys.    I have to say that I remembered correctly that the F3 was her hardest goodbye.  It is all over the FB page just like Claudia is.  But, as to the videos I have to say that each video was VO's of Georgia talking about each of her men.   She said that Matty's relationship was "slow burn" and Lee's was instant from the start.  

Matty's video
Georgia's VO talking about their relationship
7 VO's no ITM or PI

Kisses - 2

Lee's video
Georgia's VO talking about their relationship
6 VO's no ITM or PI

Kisses - 2

So if I make a comparison to Georgia's season to this season her season highlight videos of her F2 guys were pretty even and made it seem that they were very close/tied that it was close.  Zac's season I don't even see the videos as being close in comparison at all.  Lily's video was Zac highlighting the relationship IMO.      What I also find interesting and confusing is in Viarni's video and also highlighting of each girl before F3 RC that Zac has not commented at all on Viarni and his relationship.  He has not mentioned how their relationship has grown and developed.  He has only focused on how stunning, beautiful she is.   Just before F3 RC on the highlight of each girl he states in VO about Claudia and seeing a relationship with her and he also states about a relationship with Lily but nothing about Viarni.  Not even how he sees them in the future.  The same with the video you see Zac in am ITM from Lily's FD that their relationship has been building and growing.   There is absolutely nothing of Viarni's relationship building and how he feels just the scenes of him saying "I like you".  I am so confused if Viarni is F1.

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Thanks for doing that research. I agree with all your observations and if V is F1, we can be co-captains of Club Confused.
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