Bachelor New Zealand - Season 3 - Zac Franich - Episode Discussion - *Sleuthing Spoilers* #2

HEA wrote:

iamreal2u wrote:It feels to me that Lily is sabotaging herself imo.  Each time they are together she is giving him a way out.  The last episode she told him to pick someone safer and now this getting smash comment.  Umm.

first thank you all for the live update!!

i agree about sabotaging herself. it is a defense protection mode someone scared to be rejected imo... been there done that burnt the tee shirt..... she is pushing his buttons like "see the worse of her to test him

i like lily a lot but 2 segments were cut and those give me pause.

1.  she played with her spoon at her fancy diner implying sex
2.  she wrote this note and zac said it was infamous (?)

so if he is still ok with her non ladylike attitude that means a lot to me.

claudia has IMO the F2 edit from the start a la Dani... lot of PI, clingy, bubbly, sweet but misunderstood, special bond with lead, lust attraction (aka the wow reaction when zac saw her in the stairs at the dance SD). diamonds could be a sorry gift? he has a soft spot for her since out of the limo. the only one i saw him acting like a kid jumping up and down... not much acting as a mature man. me thinks being with young adults keep him young that way

which lead me to think he is not as mature as we think he is or should for 28. i agree with @Bobette it is like catching up what he missed and why he is comfortable with younger women. imo he is in the middle of crossed roads... still want fun but also a steady girlfriend...

viarni is 24. a good compromise. i cannot stop thinking prods cut too much parts and at almost the end i cannot connect the dots. I think she has the perfect F3 edit aka next bachelorette NZ like @Bobette said. at times i almosr think zac changed his mind in the middle from viarni to lily going back and forth until the flamme got too hot for him to resist lily...

right now i still stand by my F1 Lily F2 Claudia F3 Viarni

But I do not see long term relationship with Lily like @Katybelle said. maybe a year or two max. time also for zac to truly grow up and move on to maturity.

i think lily had adrenaline junkies BF, surfers like.... but got tired of them. i think she thinks she wants to try steady. i think she needs both and not sure long term zac can fill in her needs. her bio says she is an adrenaline junkie....

but for now i think both lily and zac are mutually feeding their today needs.

i predict claudia to meet very soon a BF like fleur.

but yet again viarni can be his "emily" ...

... all my opinion

Bobette wrote:



Yes, we are on the same page @HEA - I have the same top 3, in the same order, for similar reasons.  If we are wrong we will be wrong together!

I particularly agree with your "right for now" reasoning.  I've been in relationships that I knew weren't going to last forever but they were what I wanted/needed at the time and I came out wiser and at the end of the day I wouldn't change a thing.  

Besides, there's nothing to say their relationship wouldn't last!  I've seen more unlikely couples flourish, and supposedly perfect couples fall apart.

TWT.

see2love wrote:No matter how much I like Lily as a person, she isnt ready for a realtionship right now imo. From what she does, to what she says....she should take this for what it is....a great experience to travel and make friends. I doubt she would be heartbroken, because she has not been that invested in Zac. Likes him and all, but nowhere near falling or even starting to fall for him.

HEA wrote:@see2love how do we know that again?

because it seams that lily never hide who she is. she even made a dude joke at the M&G CP... her taking his beer. Nothing is new or out of the blue. he understand her and has no questions to what she wants and looking for. Yet he still find her amazing and gave her a rose at F5 so I am sure her pub comment was not such a surprise?

Because someone looks fine, does not mean this person is inside. It is IMO a lot to assume, yes not heartbroken but upset, disappointed, probably sad...... this of course if she is not F1 eh?

Funny how it can be a double entendre..... poor poor sweet Viarni, claudia will recover quickly and need to learn to be less clingy and Lily will probably not care because she is a free spirit. IMO each girl have feelings for him at this stage and each will recover quickly OUTSIDE the bachelor bubble, no matter who they are.

... jmo

HEA wrote:true.

i just saw a segment and zac seems annoyed with the same questions. I also think claudia was a bit tipsy imo. not cool to exclude claudia like this. The 3 amigos should have been more gracious and this includes lily. yep. not cool.

why the heck claudia did not bring 2 packs of die hair for peter?s sake?????