Raven Gates - Bachelor 21 - Discussion - #2

Time for me to eat crow!     My curiosity got the better of me and I went looking for the video of Nick and Jared where he can be seen talking about Raven and saying 'never had sex' like the person emailing RS had said. Looks like it was a legit email.

Around 4.09 in the video below, Nick's lips read 'she's a cool girl'. And around 4.18, he says 'never had sex'. From the video, looks like Nick and Jared both planned to be seen and heard having this conversation. I think Nick wanted to get the info out there that nothing happened between him and Raven.    

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All JMO.

[You must be registered and logged in to see this link.] instagram live stories can only be seen when they are happening. They disappear after. However, right after the live ended and i posted here, i went back and looked at her ig, she had posted a story that said something like see you at the game tonight, jonesbororo vs hoxie or maybe hoxie at Jonesboro. It has since been deleted.

coolangel wrote:Time for me to eat crow!     My curiosity got the better of me and I went looking for the video of Nick and Jared where he can be seen talking about Raven and saying 'never had sex' like the person emailing RS had said. Looks like it was a legit email.

Around 4.09 in the video below, Nick's lips read 'she's a cool girl'. And around 4.18, he says 'never had sex'. From the video, looks like Nick and Jared both planned to be seen and heard having this conversation. I think Nick wanted to get the info out there that nothing happened between him and Raven.    

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All JMO.

A very smart move IMO. He's not a fool to tpbp games, and he wanted his side out there some way, and Jared came in handy. JMO.

hae1001 wrote:[You must be registered and logged in to see this link.] instagram live stories can only be seen when they are happening.  They disappear after. However, right after the live ended and i posted here,  i went back and looked at her ig, she had posted a story that said something like see you at the game tonight, jonesbororo vs hoxie or maybe hoxie at Jonesboro. It has since been deleted.

So she's still in Arkansas? When does the F2 typically fly out to LA? I haven't followed this stuff closely through the seasons but do they typically push it like the day before? I just thought with the show on Monday and today already Friday, she'd have to be heading out soon.

It will be interesting to see if a relationship with Vanessa will work after she watches the show and sees his interaction with Raven and the way their fantasy date was edited!!!!! It is like the producers wanted everyone to think Raven finally had a big O, which in my opinion wouldn't help Vanessa "Feel Special" when she watched & then have interviewers after the show who will bring it up......

Personally I don't know why any F1 would watch the full season, complete with the lead's dates with the other women and it has nothing to do with insecurity but just, "what's the point?" Obviously the lead was dating other people because that's the show but they chose you. So why would Vanessa watch any of Nick's dates with Raven or Rachel, etc. What can possibly be gained from that?

Those relationships ultimately had nothing to do with her or their relationship. It was his story with whoever the woman was. But he made a choice at the end so it's in the past and best to leave it there in my opinion. I mean I'm sure some F1 do watch but I'm just saying I think it's smart not to and see no point in it and I wouldn't think Vanessa or any F1 was insecure if they said they chose not to watch.

[You must be registered and logged in to see this link.] yes she was still in arkansas when she was doing the live video. There is still an ig story of her from earlier today riding around in a truck listenning to a song and you can tell she is somewhere rural and not big city like LA. I looked online and it appears to be some championship tournament this weekend. Both Jonesboro and Hoxie teams are playing today so maybe she is flying out tomorrow or sunday. Source

I think the mature ones with prior relationships would not choose to watch, since as you say @Ileyki, what's to be gained from it? I'm guessing Vanessa knows where she stands with Nick and that's all that matters.

hae1001 wrote:[You must be registered and logged in to see this link.] instagram live stories can only be seen when they are happening.  They disappear after. However, right after the live ended and i posted here,  i went back and looked at her ig, she had posted a story that said something like see you at the game tonight, jonesbororo vs hoxie or maybe hoxie at Jonesboro. It has since been deleted.

Hmmm, if I'm not mistaken unless she deletes it, it will stay on my view until I see it.  When did she post it? This is what I see from her IG story (6 hours ago).  Just curious, I missed it.

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Clearly when she posted 6 hours ago, doesn't look like LA.

[You must be registered and logged in to see this link.] no, not if it is live. Live videos have to be watched in the moment. Info on instagram Live I posted on here at 1:26 pm central right after the live video had ended. As for when the story she deleted was posted, i saw it right after i posted on here, so I am assuming she posted it when the live was done around 1:30. Idk why she would have deleted it.

hae1001 wrote:[You must be registered and logged in to see this link.] no, not if it is live. Live videos have to be watched in the moment. Info on instagram Live I posted on here at 1:26 pm central right after the live video had ended. As for when the story she deleted was posted, i saw it right after i posted on here, so I am assuming she posted it when the live was done around 1:30. Idk why she would have deleted it.

OH got it. I missed it (I think I was really working at that time), I thought it was an IG story.

hae1001 wrote:[You must be registered and logged in to see this link.] instagram live stories can only be seen when they are happening.  They disappear after. However, right after the live ended and i posted here,  i went back and looked at her ig, she had posted a story that said something like see you at the game tonight, jonesbororo vs hoxie or maybe hoxie at Jonesboro. It has since been deleted.

I saw that IG story too.

Bringing this link from the media thread! First time I have seen this!


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Hotmomma wrote:Bringing this link from the media thread! First time I have seen this!


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Yes, it is interesting in that after Nick talks with his mom she says "I can see Raven has affected him in a very positive way". I am looking forward to what she has to say after meeting Vanessa.