Survivor 2017 - Game Changers- Season 34 - *Sleuthing - Spoilers*

I can't believe only Brad knocked that over. I thought there would be more.

And Andrea wins immunity.

This will be interesting. Again it seems to come down to Sarah. Sierra vs. Zeke. I really have no idea which it will be. I would prefer Sierra to leave.

Bye Zeke.

Oh Debbie.

Hali says Game Changers and Debbie says idiots. I hate to admit it but I'm kind of with Debbie on this one. Still a little early to turn on your own.

^ ^ ^ I disagree.  The 6 women can band together and get rid of the men, especially if a woman can keep winning the immunity challenges.  The other wrinkle in that plan is Tai having 2 hidden immunity idols.  

Would he be smart enough to figure out which 2 men (including himself) would be in need of saving?  And, would he be willing to use 1 of the idols on himself and the other on Brad or Troy?  That would leave him unprotected going forward.

I personally think getting rid of Zeke was a good move.  He was untrustworthy, as he had already proven.

For a minute I thought Tai was going home with 2 idols in his pocket.

Longhornfan wrote:^ ^ ^ I disagree.  The 6 women can band together and get rid of the men, especially if a woman can keep winning the immunity challenges.  The other wrinkle in that plan is Tai having 2 hidden immunity idols.  

Would he be smart enough to figure out which 2 men (including himself) would be in need of saving?  And, would he be willing to use 1 of the idols on himself and the other on Brad or Troy?  That would leave him unprotected going forward.

I personally think getting rid of Zeke was a good move.  He was untrustworthy, as he had already proven.

Everyone of them is untrustworthy so I don't see Zeke any different than anyone else. They have all turned on someone already and are all playing for themselves and if they are not, they are idiots and don't deserve to win. See Michaela last night. Turning on him because he is untrustworthy is just an excuse. One they could have used to turn on anyone.

As for the women banding together, that has never worked out. For some reason, women seem to turn on each other much more readily than men do. I highly doubt we will see a ladies alliance and I certainly don't think there will be three women at the end.

The only person back I see Michaela have at the moment is Ciri other than that she is biding her time to strike. They should have listen to her but they did not which to me is stupid.

reason wrote:The only person back I see Michaela have at the moment is Ciri other than that she is biding her time to strike.  They should have listen to her but they did not which to me is stupid.

I'm sorry, but I don't think I understand. They should have listened to Michaela? Cirie? One of the other women?

Sprite wrote:

Longhornfan wrote:^ ^ ^ I disagree.  The 6 women can band together and get rid of the men, especially if a woman can keep winning the immunity challenges.  The other wrinkle in that plan is Tai having 2 hidden immunity idols.  

Would he be smart enough to figure out which 2 men (including himself) would be in need of saving?  And, would he be willing to use 1 of the idols on himself and the other on Brad or Troy?  That would leave him unprotected going forward.

I personally think getting rid of Zeke was a good move.  He was untrustworthy, as he had already proven.

Everyone of them is untrustworthy so I don't see Zeke any different than anyone else. They have all turned on someone already and are all playing for themselves and if they are not, they are idiots and don't deserve to win. See Michaela last night. Turning on him because he is untrustworthy is just an excuse. One they could have used to turn on anyone.

As for the women banding together, that has never worked out. For some reason, women seem to turn on each other much more readily than men do. I highly doubt we will see a ladies alliance and I certainly don't think there will be three women at the end.

You are right that they are all looking out for themselves, and loyalty is not part of this season - as has been shown many times already.  But my point regarding Zeke is that he wasn't even trying to hide the fact last night that he and Brad had bonded and that he would probably flip on his "current alliance of the moment".  I just don't feel like Zeke played a very smart game, and IMO was dangerous to keep around.

I suspect that Michaela might have been persuaded to go along with the decision to evict Zeke when the idea of an alliance of all women was presented to her.  So maybe this will be the season that they will be able to get three women to the very end.  But, there is still a lot of game to be played.  And, there are still 3 hidden immunities in play (Tai and Troy) - as well as 2 advantages held by Sierra and Sarah.

@reason There is something about Ciri I have always liked. Always. I identify with her a lot, I guess that's it.

@Kashathediva Ciri save her 2 weks ago and they are doing it together but no one knows they are in a pack. I love ciri

I love the Cirie/Mikaela dynamic. Cirie is everything Mikaela isn't - experienced, calm, wise. I love that Mikaela seems to recognize she could learn a lot from Cirie. Cirie has always been one of my favorites, with a good sense of humor to boot. I hope she goes far!

Why was Mikaela crying after Zeke was voted out when she voted for him as well?