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Post by pavalygurl Tue Jun 13, 2017 3:02 pm

GuardianAngel wrote:IDK as the poster pointed up thread, I'm so sorry I forgot who it was, that Raven seemed to be the one that fed RS during Nick's season which IA with. I can totally see her giving her side of the story to RS, plus maybe she witnessed it.

ETA: where was she if she was suppose to shadow Corinne? Knowing Corinne's behaviour I'd be constantly with her if she was my responsibility.

I've wondered this as well.

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Post by Guest Tue Jun 13, 2017 3:04 pm

Having to shadow Corinne is pretty much the worst job I can think of. I'd rather follow Ashley I around (Edit: who would probably be following Jared around, so technically I'd be shadowing Jared)

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Post by coolangel Tue Jun 13, 2017 3:27 pm

As much as I dislike RS, his account of what went down makes total sense to me. Even though it sounds anti-Corinne, so far the only two people agreeing with Corinne's version of the story are Corinne+Shelby IMO.

Even Amy Kaufman who was banned from covering the show and might not be a TPTB cheerleader is peddling the version which supports the show IMO. Like I said yesterday, I don't think any of these people are terrible human beings to the point that they would try to bury sexual assault just for keeping this garbage show going.

I am glad that there are tapes so hopefully everything will come to light soon IMO and won't remain a 'He said she said'.

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Post by Seabear Tue Jun 13, 2017 3:28 pm

From what I have garnered from various articles. Shelby was not on the scene witnessing the Corinne and DeMario activity But when viewing the footage that night in the control room as they go over the days footage....she expressed her concerns.
I think most likely once the producer Shelby lodged a complaint directly to Warner Bros...that to cover their bases they shut down production to avoid further liability as they suss the situation for a factual timeline of what actually occurred.
I would think that the footage aired would tell a fairly accurate story, as well as the witnesses who were present at the incidents.

RS's account seems rather credible IMO. It certainly gives a larger overview of the entire day IMO.

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Post by Guest Tue Jun 13, 2017 3:40 pm

One thing I find strange about RS' account is this part :"Producers asked both DeMario and Corinne after the fact if their hookup was consensual, and both reportedly said yes"

They don't usually ask that after a hookup


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Post by sweeti810 Tue Jun 13, 2017 3:45 pm

Seabear wrote:From what I have garnered from various articles. Shelby was not on the scene witnessing the Corinne and DeMario activity But when viewing the footage that night in the control room as they go over the days footage....she expressed her concerns.
I think most likely once the producer Shelby lodged a complaint directly to Warner Bros...that to cover their bases they shut down production to avoid further liability as they suss the situation for a factual timeline of what actually occurred.
I would think that the footage aired would tell a fairly accurate story, as well as the witnesses who were present at the incidents.

RS's account seems rather credible IMO. It certainly gives a larger overview of the entire day IMO.

JMO

That's what I was thinking too. Reality Steve said yesterday in his interview with Jenny McCarthy that they only have the resort until June 26 or 28, so my guess is by the time they finished the investigation, they wouldn't have enough time to finish filming. That's why they just canceled it and sent everyone home. JMO.

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Post by provenceguy Tue Jun 13, 2017 3:51 pm

Well, I thought this was a very interesting point in RS's column today:

-Kristina got the first date of the season and asked "X". Remember before the show I told you how Kristina and Jef Holm were basically in a relationship the last few months? Well, apparently that’s over now because Kristina and "X" hit it off and are now a thing. They are currently traveling together right now.

The "X" was added by me so as not to reveal the contestant's name, as he is also on Rachel's season.


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Post by Guest Tue Jun 13, 2017 4:17 pm

Now I'm really curious if the Mexican tourism board got wind of the antics and told them all to leave and all the finger-pointing is just fall-out. After some of the awful publicity other hot spots have gotten (Aruba, Panama City), having porn (soft or not) filmed on site may not be what they bargained for when they comped the resort.

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Post by GuardianAngel Tue Jun 13, 2017 4:21 pm

yana_bach wrote:One thing I find strange about RS' account is this part :"Producers asked both DeMario and Corinne after the fact if their hookup was consensual, and both reportedly said yes"

They don't usually ask that after a hookup


I wondered about that as well. And I also wonder what was the time frame of "after the fact" 10 minutes after, 24 hours after?


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Post by Guest Tue Jun 13, 2017 4:30 pm

Not sure I trust DM as a source I heard she wasn't passed out by eyewitness, still doesn't make it right IMO. I blame mostly the  producers who staged and watched everything. So far I think every single account is that both parties were heavily drunk so therefore producers should intervened IMO. If it went down the way DM wrote I would think DeMario would've been arrested by now. I can't pick sides almost all involved are to blame, but mostly the producers IMO. Also don't trust RS much or Raven from what I've seen.

I wonder how all of this will effect the current Bachelorette and future of all Bachelor spin offs. 

I hope all truth comes out soon. Also hope this is a wake up call about the show having toxic producers and toxic cast. 

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Sorry, I can't side with anyone here. Each side has a part in this cluster fork. Production we know is sleazy. That is a given. Nothing new. Unfortunately, if this goes to trial and I hope it does not, it's going to get dirty for all parties. The gloves will come off.

I agree 100%!

@yana_bach I think the reason they asked was because one producer came forward saying it might not have been, still not a good question to have to ask.

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Post by Guest Tue Jun 13, 2017 4:31 pm

What do yall make of @ustesdad's comment on RS' page? It said

Unfortunately, the alleged Corrine/DeMario situation happens every day at colleges across the country.
Girl and guy get drunk. There is no blatant “yes” for sexual contact, and no blatant “no” indicating either party wishes to stop. They have sexual contact. Once inebriation wears off, one party realizes things went further than they would have liked (for many different reasons: they found out the other was a scumbag, they have a BF/GF already, they simply regret it, etc). Charges for sexual assault are filed.
Many times it’s a simple he said, she said. Unfortunately in the court of public opinion, once a person is thought of as a rapist, it sticks and destroys their life.
Far too often men get permanently labeled as sex offenders, when in reality the woman simply later regretted letting it go that far.
Don’t get me wrong, sexual assault is a horrible, awful crime and men/women who force sexual contact with others are the scum of the earth. But situations like what has been described for Corrine/DeMario is not sexual assault. As much of a scumbag DeMario might be (going on Bachelorette with a GF back home), I hope he doesn’t get stuck with the label of a rapist.

Do you think that characterizes what happened in this situation?

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Post by Sheokaf Tue Jun 13, 2017 4:49 pm

I guess it depends. I can see Demario getting some chit if what the DM is reporting. Holding someone up so they don't drown while trying to have sex, pulling her out and well, we all know... Like the above poster said, if that actually happened I'd think he be arrested.


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