Nick Viall - Bachelor 21 - Episode 8 Feb 20 - *Sleuthing Spoilers*

I might be the only one with this opinion but I find the 'father's permission' aspect of proposals antiquated - on this show and also IRL. Ask me first. If I say yes, we'll go and convince our families together. All JMO.

coolangel wrote:I might be the only one with this opinion but I find the 'father's permission' aspect of proposals antiquated - on this show and also IRL. Ask me first. If I say yes, we'll go and convince our families together. All JMO.

It's like everyone knows about your surprise (engagement in this case) before you do.

notarose wrote:

Ladybug82 wrote:

Her father doesn’t help matters by sharing some information about Nick that has Vanessa questioning whether she will get her fairytale ending.

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She knew about him and his stints of the show before hand, so what could he possibly tell her that makes her question Nick now?  

I know they always throw in obstacles and doubt for the F1/Lead to overcome but this seems like another stupid storyline in a season with an exceptionally bad storyboard and a wonky, choppy edit.  They seriously could've left a lot more in if they'd minimized the Corinne show.  

JMO

About the father talk
On Nick & V's first 1-1 he talked about the bubble and how it's a challenge to trust your feeling inside that bubble.  I'm thinking Nick might tell Mr. Grimaldi that he may not propose because of wanting V to be certain her feelings are RL transferable.  This would directly relate to the whole "fairytale ending" idea.  I could see her dad wanting to be sure she is prepared for 3 outcomes: not being chosen, chosen but not being engaged, or engaged. It would be a reasonable convo for dad to have with daughter before she leaves again.
Might fit the epi description.

I can easily see this and add that Nick has just started a new business and initially moving (if at all) well, the chances as he sees it are slim. I have no doubt that he questions how Nick could financially take care of his daughter which leads to that discussion. I am aware that some feel he should move but I just don't think it's going to happen(if at all) until his business is out of the ground stage.

This isn't an attempt to open a discussion about Nick as a business owner. I can't judge anything I know nothing about as in partners, products, etc. I do have faith in the marketing dept. though!

^^^ Yes and in my mind I am picturing the Godfather having that talk with Nick (sorry don't mean to stereotype). But I suspect that Vanessa's father would be a serious and respectable and perhaps even intimidating kind of man, just going by the way she is and what she has said about her family.
I hope that doesn't ruin the end of the HTD, but who knows. I like that he has her HTD last- which again bodes well.

OK, sleuthers... Has there been a pattern of HTD for The Bachelor (not Bachelorette) with placement of when the person is shown?

Someone CMIIW, but pretty sure in the most recent seasons the F1's HTD has been filmed last, but viewing order varies based on storyboard and who they want to focus on, you know the doubts, crazies, etc.

I'm sure @Aunties_love probably has stats.  We can at least ask.    TIA AL!  

JMO

Corrine takes Nick shopping
https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=hH11llde29A

^^ Nick's commentary on Corinne is hilarious and so fitting can't believe I'm saying this but I'm looking forward to her HTD, it's definitely going to be entertaining.

Did Corinne not watch Nick's infamous plane video? Clearly his favorite shop is K mart and she didn't take him there?

sdmom wrote:Did Corinne not watch Nuck's infamous plane video? Clearly his favorite shop is K mart and she didn't take him there?

In sweatpants

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It's good to be Corinne! @viallnicholas28 takes @CorinneOly on a shopping spree in this #Bachelor sneak peek http://ahwd.tv/GAfO5z

Based solely on the preview, it looks like the HTD activities/dates will be very diverse.
Should be fun to watch.