Rachel Lindsay - Bachelor 21 - *Sleuthing Spoilers* - #2

I like both of them differently. It doesn't have to be all or nothing with any of them. IMO

I like them both. IMO you can like some and disagree with their comments or actions sometimes.

[You must be registered and logged in to see this link.] Exactly. I feel the same way.

Just because I like one doesn't mean I can't like the other.

I guess just reading RS saying "If you are team Vanessa you'll feel like this and if you are team Rachel you'll feel like that" and I am sitting here like "I like both these women". I honestly see both sides and think it's all petty. I do think the squad thing is immature, but I don't know if I am too sure that it was bullying just because Vanessa seemed to get along with the girls fine to me when I watch the show, I see her hugging girls and laughing with girls and everything. We also have to remember this disagreement happened in Bimini... There were only 6 girls left, 2 of the girls left (Danielle M and Kristina) are very good friends with Vanessa, so I think we should beware of RS trying to make it seem like it's like mean girls when half of the "squad" was eliminated when the disagreement even took place. JMO.

I wrote a very glowing opinion of my excitement for Rachel as the Bachelorette on this forum. I don't dislike Rachel now and I intend to watch her season. However what she has shown of herself particularly on the IG live are not qualities I respect in a person. So my personal opinion of her has been lowered. Therefore I plan to watch Rachel and see what she really is about as she heads her own season. I hope she can let things go and concentrate on her quest to find her husband....without becoming MeAndI 2.0.
All JMO

ericbutterfly wrote:I guess just reading RS saying "If you are team Vanessa you'll feel like this and if you are team Rachel you'll feel like that" and I am sitting here like "I like both these women". I honestly see both sides and think it's all petty. I do think the squad thing is immature, but I don't know if I am too sure that it was bullying just because Vanessa seemed to get along with the girls fine to me when I watch the show, I see her hugging girls and laughing with girls and everything. We also have to remember this disagreement happened in Bimini... There were only 6 girls left, 2 of the girls left (Danielle M and Kristina) are very good friends with Vanessa, so I think we should beware of RS trying to make it seem like it's like mean girls when half of the "squad" was eliminated when the disagreement even took place. JMO.

RS' brain can't comprehend the fact that people are capable of seeing things in a non-binary fashion. That liking one person doesn't mean you hate the other. That women don't always have to be pitted against each other. It literally makes his brain hurt.

JMO, or maybe it's true. JK, It's my opinion.

I think it's not so good to have the attitude of team this or team that. It puts up ridiculous barriers at times. Why can't it be team "enjoy"?
I am a transplant from another state. I enjoy various sports teams from all over. Rarely am I disappointed that way.

[You must be registered and logged in to see this link.] l agree about RS

[You must be registered and logged in to see this link.] yesss I love the positive vibes! I am definitely team enjoy with you. I am also team agree to disagree a lot .

I like both girls, but I disagree with how Vanessa babble. But above all I am team Nick.

I like them both too. They have both done things I could have lived without - some more than the other. However, disliking certain comments and actions and criticizing those does not mean disliking a person for me. If that were the case, it would mean I don't like myself, my bf, my friends and and my family.

ericbutterfly wrote:

They asked her what she looks for in a guy, she said confidence because she doesn't like insecure guys.
The lady then asked Rachel if she likes cocky guys because there is a difference between cocky and confident and Rachel agreed that there is a difference and she said she can't stand a cocky guy.
Then the lady said "Well do you know of Josh Murray" and Rachel said "Yes I do" and then the lady said "He's cocky right?" and Rachel said "I think he's cute"

That speaks volumes to me. I don't believe for one second she was just being positive or whatever. Josh is not some unknown. There's nothing "cute" to me about a guy who went off on Amanda on the show telling Amanda she is "disrespecting" me and what Andi wrote about him and more importantly what Josh HIMSELF tweets and posts on his SM and says in interviews recently with his shade and fakeness (is there anyone from this show more fake than Josh? Not to me). Any excuse of Rachel doesn't know this only makes her look ignorant by choice which is not a good trait in anyone, IMO. 

If Rachel thinks Josh is "cute" then she's a terrible role model for women in general, IMO. And if she is supposed to be just talking about looks, sorry that is NOT what the question was, it was "He's cocky, right?" so relating to his personality traits not his looks and looks should never come into the equation IMO when it comes to personality and how someone treats other people the way Josh and his MM treat people. If Rachel was someone who truly kept it "100" and real she would respond with a REAL response about Josh being cocky IMO instead of that diversion. Plus she said she can't stand cocky guys, why not respond in like for Josh unless of course she's living under a rock somewhere it's ridiculous to me her response and Josh is the epitome, IMO, of an insecure guy who is cocky.

But most of all, since I am Team Nick and knowing how Josh has been towards Nick, Rachel even saying what she said about Josh is added to the list of Rachel saying "his loss" about Nick. To me, Rachel just sounds bitter and still has a grudge about not winning. Not a good look no matter how I slice it.

jmo

I dont like Josh but to me he is cute looking, that could be what she means.