Bachelor 21 - Nick Viall - Media SM Vids - Discussion - *Sleuthing Spoilers* #4

emusha wrote:

atem wrote:

sdmom wrote:Here's the link to the preview: volleyball date gone wrong
http://abc.go.com/shows/the-bachelor/video/most-recent/VDKA3663064
Sorry I don't know how to embed a video, but Vanessa and Dani M were crying.

Thanks.  I'm sorry but that was very annoying!  Boo hoo! I don't get enough time with Nick.  Ugh!

I agree. I have always, from the very first moment really wanted to like Vanessa cos she's of all people Nick's F1 but she's always been the kind to be dominating and to always draw the optimal attention to herself due to her demeanor (not because she is asking for the attention but because she is dominating and she sucks you in).

She's also very passionate and leads with her emotions which in this situation is likely exasperated but I find her dominating, needy and dramatic ...and frankly, annoying - def not as likable as I would like. Her approach, tone of voice etc. all came off as even a tad entitled from the very first episode when she said she was "shocked" she didn't get the FIR - girl there were 29 other women in that group that could have blown Nick away - what makes you a special snowflake even if there was chemistry that you'd be shocked!

I can very much see how she is a version of what Nick wants and he'd likely enjoy the dramatics cos he loves the passion and the ups and downs of a relationship -- I can see him wanting to keep things interesting/unexpected which she can bring to the table. She's not as intellectual/cerebral and I don't think she'll be the one grounding him, rather he'd be catering to her (she's more emotional so she'll add the dramatics rather than having a calming effect imho). And maybe that's what nick needs, someone to focus on so he can rid himself of his self-absorbed neurotics. I don't see her bringing the intellectual challenge which I think he loves and craves -- the kind of verbal sparring he enjoys/ed with Andi, Taylor, Rachel.

I can understand why others might have completely different opinions from me and I am not writing this to convince you but to share my view as I have the freedom to on this forum but I've watched closely putting spoilers aside really wanting to like her and sadly for me I'm really not as excited about her as I was hoping I would be once Nick's F1 rolls around....

Even when I try to as I watch them I find myself liking the immediate emotional intimacy but there was no build up and I find it one dimensional. I find her to be the kind of suck him in. I do imagine we haven't seen many sides to her and obviously this weird process brings out strange sides - she is likely loving and caring as well as giving so I'm hopeful he'll have a great reciprocal relationship....but for watching the show its' a bit of a bummer cos it's been a long long road with this Nick Viall on the show. All the best to her/them regardless as I continue watching and hoping I'll start to enjoy them more -- but based on this episodes so far I don't think they'll be one of my fave couples unfortunately for me.

happygolucky wrote:Just to remember Nick 1.0 (Andi's season) ... he was called tricky Nick and salty Nick for a reason ... he might had been "cute" to some of us (that we actually found him endearing) ... but he wasn't really "a good game" with the rest of the boys, only bonding with JJ, who wasn't put off by Nick's attitude (what some call arrogance and front-runner confidence, IMO, but I suspect also because JJ wasn't really into Andi that much) and Brian (who understood his dry sense of humor, but was less confident in his approach in dating, therefor he was often irritated by Nick's behavior too, JMO).

crunchycheeto wrote:Rachel's hair is fine, IMO. I'd be offended on her behalf if a man would get me to comb/fix my hair, whether it's natural hair or a weave. And from what I've seen, Nick (whether you thought of him as a rat in earlier seasons or not) thankfully doesn't have a history of being controlling in that regard.

crunchycheeto wrote:Rachel's hair is fine, IMO. I'd be offended on her behalf if a man would get me to comb/fix my hair, whether it's natural hair or a weave. And from what I've seen, Nick (whether you thought of him as a rat in earlier seasons or not) thankfully doesn't have a history of being controlling in that regard.

LoveDovez wrote:

crunchycheeto wrote:Rachel's hair is fine, IMO. I'd be offended on her behalf if a man would get me to comb/fix my hair, whether it's natural hair or a weave. And from what I've seen, Nick (whether you thought of him as a rat in earlier seasons or not) thankfully doesn't have a history of being controlling in that regard.

It's all good..... It's called snark.....