Nick Viall - Bachelor 21 - Episode 2 Jan 9th - *Sleuthing Spoilers*

SunnyRachel wrote:Today felt like a long episode which kinda dragged. Adore Dainelle M but I feel she is suited for someone else. Raven was right on what is Nick looking for? At least for next week we already see that Vanessa will be noticed and questioning what Nick wants. Should be more interesting with there chemistry again.

Danielle M is a doll. She's too good for the show, but I kind of want to watch her fall in love on TV so hoping she comes back for Bachelorette or bachelor In paradise.

This episode dragged for me too. Nick just didn't come off looking very well and the season just seems kind of trashy. Hoping things change next week!

Corinne should be ejected for her boldness alone. That is a terrible red flag.

When you're naive, you think when a person of the opposite gender is that bold towards you, that it simply means they are deeply into you. But in reality it usually means the person is a raging sociopath with an agenda. Especially when they are bold when normal people are reserved.

Poor Liz is not very appealing to me, and of course she is looking to brag, but her bragging effectively destroys relationships. She needs to leave because of that too. She ought to take off those granny glasses. Nothing sweet or innocent about her.

The Corrine stuff was not a good look and to be honest, I was getting really irritated with Nick during that very, very, did I mention very, long date. Especially when he kept allowing Corrine to interrupt the women. What happened to wanting to be respectful when he told Jasmine no last episode? And yeah, it's just not a good look for a 36 year old guy who says he's looking for his wife to be entertaining a 23 year old who was so clearly trashed and smashed out of her mind by the end of the date.

That said, I can see why the show/producers probably insisted on keeping Corinne because remove her and the Liz drama as well and some would likely be saying there was no drama and the season was boring. Because, and this is a compliment but I actually think all these other women may be too mellow for good dramatic television.

But with that said, once the Corrine stuff was over, I enjoyed the episode. I loved his date with Dani M. and I thought their conversation about her deceased fiance was very beautiful. Yes, like with Rachel last week, I got a sense that Nick mostly just liked her as a person as opposed to being into her passionately and romantically. But honestly, I was glad for the break from all the sucking face and to just see two people have a nice and normal conversation.

And as awkward as hell as the Liz situation was, that was some good television. And in that case, I don't blame Nick for anything. Liz put herself in a really awkward situation, then put him in an awkward position and then she told Christen which just further opened up a can of worms and yeah at that point it was just best for her to leave.

Can't wait to see Vanessa lay a smack down on Nick next week and if after she says that to his face, he not only keeps her but picks her in the end, then he really does like women who call him out on his crap. As for those thinking this could be a foiler season and people should continue sleuthing, fair point.

But this past weekend, signs pointed very strongly to the spoiler being correct. Someone, who was confirmed by their social media as being from Montreal, saw Vanessa at the airport. She was mostly silent all weekend on social media, while Nick was posting a lot of cooking snaps/IG videos, all of Italian food, while making sure to never show any faces. Not absolute solid proof but fairly compelling in my opinion.

mizzoufan wrote:I wonder how they choose who got to drive?

This first date lasted a LONG time. They seemed to have cut some other stuff out too. Were they under time pressure? When they call out the names for the dates, one of my favorite parts to watch is how every woman celebrates when her name is called. They even had to cut precious seconds off that.

bblake wrote:I am SO glad that Rachel or Raven don't win. They both deserve way better than this immature, sex-obsessed famewhore. JMO.

plus Danielle too IMO.

On the plus side, the women got so much screen time and Nick was so low energy all night that I almost was able to forget he was the lead for a lot of the episode and just enjoy the ladies and the drama. Jmo.

https://www.yahoo.com/tv/the-bachelor-recap-im-living-my-nightmare-030143253.html

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I am doing the SC's lf this week's preview.  I'll get them up tomorrow when I can.

As annoying as Corrine was, I do think some are being over the top in their reactions to Nick's response to her. I've seen him referred to as a sex addict and like pause people, he just made out a bunch of times with her. If he was that sex obsessed he'd make sure she made it to fantasy suite dates like many were sure he would do regarding Danielle L. and the other hot, young models. Again, I wasn't thrilled with his entertaining Corinne's crap and giving her a rose while she could barely keep her drunk eyes open but I don't think he's done anything yet that plenty of leads haven't.

Looking at that episode I think he was not into a lot of them and uses Corrine as a go between until the end of the espiode.

https://www.yahoo.com/tv/the-bachelor-recap-im-living-my-nightmare-030143253.html

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