Raven Gates - Bachelor 21 - *Sleuthing Spoilers*

Lara wrote:Haha, that was Astrid! People always confuse the two.

sharonchan wrote:

CHO wrote:In a nutshell - what exactly is the "proof" that Vanessa is F1 ?  I re-watched the scenes with Raven - and I think there is far more chemistry with Raven.  Nick seems so relaxed and happy when he is with her - but intrigued and amused by her too.  The evening part of the skating in the roller rink - very romantic - and then when she got the 3 on 1 date rose - they couldn't keep their hands off each other.  On the htd - maybe the mud-bath scene was staged - but both seemed to be having fun - "sassy and sexual !"  We don't get to see the hot tub scene - is that because we might figure out something ?  Remember we are continually told that N is unpredictable.  I see Vanessa whining, complaining, doubtful - needing to re-evaluate - and I feel N is on the brink of "getting in trouble."  Vanessa leads the conversation - I think N gets kind of swallowed up.  I wonder if we are in for a twist ....

IA, I rewound and listened to Nick when he gave GDR to Raven he said "This is the last rose I will give out this week and likely the most important one, and with hometowns coming up.....Raven will you accept this Rose, then takes her out the door and immediately embraces and kiss's her and then takes her to a private concert for the two of them with more kissing etc. Seems like something between them to me. We did not see much of Raven's HTD and I wonder if that was because their may have been more chemistry than THPB wanted to let be seen at this point If you go back and listen to Vanessa's statements all you get is complaints about Nicks decisions, doubt and questions as to why she may rather go home, and his asking other parents for their ok to marry is a "game changer" So my question is, with all this how is she suppose to come to a decision in a couple of weeks that she wants to accept a marriage purposal from the guy she has constantly complained about?

GuardianAngel wrote:Ben brought someone home to meet his parents? I don't remember who it was, or if it was even on his season? but I'm pretty sure he did and it wasn't Lauren.

GuardianAngel wrote:Ben brought someone home to meet his parents? I don't remember who it was, or if it was even on his season? but I'm pretty sure he did and it wasn't Lauren.

Catdwoman50 wrote:[You must be registered and logged in to see this link.].  Yes, there has been some sleuthing for SHV and watching their feet so to speak.  We have been comparing that vs. Raven's. Check out Vanessa's earlier threads.  The first ones which we thought weren't that obvious - Nick posting cooking italian food (too much for 1 person we thought, etc - before orange couch gate happened).  Then someone posts, "Dad spots Vanessa at Montreal airport" (IG), same time we see Nick posts a selfie in a plane (see airplane vents in background).  Soon after that Italian food cooking and an extra "foot" shows up in the IG story (indicates more than just Nick).  Meanwhile - N&V gets quiet for a couple of days just food cooking pics by Nick.  Then Orange Couch Gate.  After couch date, when someone on IG said that they were sitting on same couch, they have been a bit more careful with the simultaneous IG postings and seem to make an effort (especially this last one) to show that they are out with friends. But they still need to break the pattern of a couple of days quiet, then they both resurface.

Raven on the other hand was busy posting IGs with her dog, with cousins, friends and Uncle (during these supposedly SHV visits).  

So maybe not proof but enough to tickle the Nick fans.

Ben picked up Emily in a boat and drove her across the lake to his family home. After showing her around the house and his childhood bedroom, Ben surprised Emily by bring out his parents.

Poor Emily was so excited and anxious not to make “an idiot out of herself.” She sat down individually with Ben’s mom and dad, and she did her best to “pull out all the stops” … but unfortunately, the conversations were just the tiniest bit cringe-worthy.

cmarci93 wrote:[You must be registered and logged in to see this link.] yes remember Whitney when she won the group date challenge at the track and field.

Lara wrote:Haha, that was Astrid! People always confuse the two.

Sprite wrote:

cmarci93 wrote:[You must be registered and logged in to see this link.] yes remember Whitney when she won the group date challenge at the track and field.

Lara wrote:Haha, that was Astrid! People always confuse the two.

Thanks. That one was even less romantic than the one with Danielle M. It was almost like a joke...in the middle of the field with everyone watching.

Really a lack of hot tubs this season. Maybe more were filmed but not shown...like Raven's. Perhaps they will make up for it during FDs.