Bachelor 21 - Nick Viall - General Discussion - *Sleuthing Spoilers* #3

northernviewer wrote:

mysthelma wrote:Yes it is what it is and I agree they all go on this show for fame, and all engage in some self promotion, some more than others. I was a Nick a fan but he has become the biggest famewhore in this franchise. JMO.

Now watch him go on his fifth reality show DWTS

I sure hope so! :Nick:

I would love to see him on DWTS. Another one of my favourite shows.

Please read the rules regarding the NO SPOILERS.

RULES NO SPOILERS

Wait we are allowed to talk about spoilers in here, correct?

For me, personally, I hope Nick stays away from DWTS. I know it's a total long shot, but the most interesting thing he could do post show would be move out of LA for his woman. I would LOVE that. Love, love, love.  Again, long shot. But maybe for the right person, not totally out of the realm of possibility. Having a solid/normal relationship post show gives him more noteriety and long staying power anyway then letting his little Hollywood dreams take over his priorities. He is more marketable in a successful Bachelor coupling away from LA than he is in LA and single.

GuardianAngel wrote:Please read the rules regarding the NO SPOILERS.

RULES NO SPOILERS

Please clarify ... this is a general discussion thread in the spoiler section....arent spoilers going to be part of most discussions?

I believe what this refers to is once a member is posting and/or READING in the spoiler part of the forum, they should not be posting in the no spoiled or non-spoiler section of the forum. This rule was enacted last season and is enforced.
So--Jane Doe who is posting in this thread or any other spoiler thread and/or reading in them, should not be posting in the non-spoiled/no-spoiler threads.

These threads are used for those who simply watch the episodes without knowing any spoilers and do not sleuth. No spoilers of any kind in this thread. Spoiled members are not allowed to post in the NO SPOILER threads. Spoiled members are not allowed to post in the NO SPOILER threads.

To clarify further, sorry for the confusion. Any discussions in the NO SPOILER threads are not to be brought over to the Spoiler section.

What happens in the NO SPOILER threads stay in the NO SPOILER threads. Posts were deleted.

@GuardianAngel. I'm confused, can we not gauge how the unspoiled is seeing the season and discuss it here? Because obviously I for one have tunnel vision at this point, so I would like to see what non-spoiled think based on what is shown and sleuthed facts?  I have restraint and will not ever post on the unspoiled side. What is wrong with reading their posts and discussing them here, it's like me talking to my friends who are unspoiled and feeling out what they think?  Just asking not trying to provoke anyone.

GuardianAngel wrote:To clarify further, sorry for the confusion. Any discussions in the NO SPOILER threads are not to be brought over to the Spoiler section.

What happens in the NO SPOILER threads stay in the NO SPOILER threads. Posts were deleted.

Thanks, i didnt see those posts and thought you were referring to mine

Thanks for stating reason for reminder.

AllAboutLove wrote:I just have to laugh at the SM comments regarding Nick on this show comparing him to Luke and Chase, both of whom have photos of themselves with women's hands on their crotch and that was not something they did because of a show - that's what they did in their personal lives! So yeah, I am not buying that those guys were some clean cut or better option and especially not when comparing their excessive self-promotion (and I don't think it is because Nick is smarter since none of the other guys from other seasons were as over-the-top with their SM self-promotion as JoJo's guys were IMO). 

Honestly, I think TPTB did the right thing choosing Nick and not because of any puppeteering or any such thing. This show is what it is, they're all wanting to be on TV and whatnot, but I for one am enjoying seeing Nick's story arc and season and am glad they chose him. I had zero interest in any of the other options and would have skimmed watching it just like I did the past recent leads. With Nick I am actually interested to see how it all pans out for him and I separate that from just "the show" and scripted stuff which I don't take seriously at all. It's like getting to see what happens in the final book in a quartet story or movie and with a lead that I actually am invested in - that's rare for me. So I am looking forward to seeing the rest of Nick's journey - the good, the bad, the ugly - all of it makes it more real to me for a show that's anything but, IMO.

Totally agree! Back during JoJo's season I was all for Luke being the Bachelor but that was based on the particular selection available from her season. Luke is very good looking but I agree with those who feel he didn't have the personality to get me to care or feel invested. I had no interest in Chase at all during the season either. I have been invested in Nick as a contestant and person since the beginning. Through the good and bad I've always been compelled to root for him. When he really likes the girl he goes all out and is unapologetic in his focus to do so. When he was the "villain" on the two Bachelorette seasons, I never saw him actually do anything to anyone or intentionally sabotage anyone that would fit a villain definition. He went after the girl which is the premise of the show after all and did so with conviction, passion and true interest IMO. I am not concerned about his lack of comfort/ imperfection of handling "dating" a huge group of women at the same time, it just shows as he has said that he is a one-woman type of guy which I think shows in one on one time with the women. As for overly sensual behavior and questionable judgments regarding bounce houses or whip cream, that for me is all part of taking the show in stride for Nick and my view of it is that it is harmless in the grand scheme of things as it seems like within the other dates he has particularly the 1/1 dates is where his story will be told. Nick is being true to himself as Nick and that is all I want to see. RS kept harping while filming was going on that Nick is only trying to get famous and be popular with other people and viewers regarding how he was conducting his time as Bachelor yet as has been seen so far, Nick actually has not seemed to be trying to win the popular vote so to speak in that even knowing how the Corinne interactions and giving her the rose would ruffle feathers, he for various reasons he has described still did what he felt he needed to do in order to get to know these 22 different women in the absurd time line allowed with in this show. I can't wait to watch the rest of it! Can't believe it is the third episode already but not even the second RC yet!

Catdwoman50 wrote:@GuardianAngel. I'm confused, can we not gauge how the unspoiled is seeing the season and discuss it here? Because obviously I for one have tunnel vision at this point, so I would like to see what non-spoiled think based on what is shown and sleuthed facts?  I have restraint and will not ever post on the unspoiled side. What is wrong with reading their posts and discussing them here, it's like me talking to my friends who are unspoiled and feeling out what they think?  Just asking not trying to provoke anyone.

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I will recap for you and those that may have not been here last season. We had a very active Non Spoiler category which was very enjoyable to read and I encourage anyone who thinks about it, should give it a try. Anyone was able to post in the thread, which mostly consisted of well wishes of a great job. However, often times spoilers or hints were dropped ruining it for many. Although unintentional and easy to do, it happens. Also, members were being tagged on the spoiler side, being quoted for information that they worked hard on sleuthing. When someone is tagged, they are notified. The member checks the post they are tagged in, and now they are in the spoiler side, which they have avoided on purpose. It was very time consuming to moderate those threads. We also have new members who are not familiar with the forum, and post in those threads without realizing what they are doing. Therefore the rules are, no posting, no tagging, no discussion what has been sleuthed. They are sleuthing among themselves and it's not fair that spoiled sleuthers take advantage of their work IMHO.

Also, another reason why we enforce no spoilers in any thread other than those titles spoilers for the current season, we want members to enjoy the many other active threads we have that are not associated with the current season. Members avoid threads for fear of being spoiled, which has happened many times. Some members don't even know there are other threads because they won't browse around.

The forum was created for sleuthing purposes first and foremost. There is some pretty amazing sleuthing going on each season, along with a variety of opinions. Spoiled members are given spoilers from a variety of avenues. I decided it's best to leave the Non Spoiled sleuthers in their own category and the spoiled remain in there's in order to be fair to everyone.

If anyone has any questions, feel free to pm myself or any mod. TYIA

I had been a lurker for a few years on this forum and finally came on the sleuthing side this year coz Nick was hard to resist. I had never realized the amount of hard work that goes into maintaining the forum and making it enjoyable for everyone. I am bowled over by the thought and effort which GA and the mods put in to be fair to everyone and make the forum enjoyable for both members who enjoy spoilers and the ones who don't.

@GuardianAngel and all the mods, I bow to you. Thank you for all that you do for the forum.

There are lots of other threads on this forum for all kinds of things non-related to this show and reality tv. Feel free to explore and enjoy.