Bachelor 21 - Nick Viall - General Discussion - *Sleuthing Spoilers* #3

GuardianAngel wrote:

SueSt wrote:

emusha wrote:Hmm Nick gets a slap in the promo? Is that them acting out or a real scene - I do think Nick can be a bit self-absorbed and not exactly make the best decisions to considers other ppl sometimes - bracing myself for that...inevitably we are disappointed by then lead more than when they were a contestant in most of these shows...with nick we were already know he can rub ppl the wrong way so I'm getting ready for anything

yes, emusha. IA. Nick is not perfect. The spoilers are already suggesting his past is going to come back to slap him in the face.... The lead always looks bad on some level... they lead contestants toward a finish line that only one will cross... and it's painful for the rejected. There's no "good" way to circumvent the premise of the show.

His past in what way?

I meant slap in the face figuratively...
Didn't I read a woman he slept with at Tanner & Jade's wedding comes back to participate on the show?

emusha wrote:oh great glad things don't get THAT bad that someone has to slap him  

....nonetheless while I always appreciate how authentic nick is....he doesn't always come across in the way he intends and his candor can rub people the wrong way so I'm kind of ready for anything with him/his season. I am also curious to see how he engages the women and how considerate he is of them. I do think he can get very much in his head and get self-absorbed (we are all flawed as is he...an attribute that helps him be selfaware more than some other past bachelors) so we shall see how his season plays out!

I really like this emusha.
I don't for a moment think Nick isn't confident, but he has shown himself to be uber sensitive and vulnerable when he's been attracted to someone.
It will be interesting to see how he handles having all the cards in this game.

Not sure where to mention this, but if anyone is interested, RS put up his latest podcast. Someone who actually knows Nick that works in the media, met up with him more than once by themselves and isn't hiding behind a fake name and is giving her real identity, is talking all about Nick and is giving some inside information. It starts at the 16 minute mark.

Just as a heads up, it isn't pretty.

@Ash2214 can you summarize for us who does not do RS Please?

Take in account this^ can swing two ways, but either way it comes from RS.
It took me a minute to realize this.
Initially, me bad, I thought it was a podcast coming from the media person anonymously.
Nick and RS do not have a good history. I need to remind myself of this often. RS was the one who put that plane video out there, this could simply be a gotcha in return.

reason wrote:@Ash2214 can you summarize for us who does not do RS Please?  

The person is Abby Draper. She works in the media world and here she has proof of hanging out with Nick and even face timing him on her Twitter:

https://twitter.com/abbydraper/status/793672482200793088

I don't usually tell people to listen or read anything when it comes to RS, but this was a good listen whether you're a fan of Nick or not. Abby goes into great detail about Nick almost getting the DWTS gig a year ago, he informed her that Kaitlyn had picked Shawn before the finale and he informed her that he got the bachelor gig before it was announced last summer. She also goes into detail about how large of an ego he has as well. It was just interesting IMO.

Interesting she is no friend of Nick so why seek him out? There was no need to say that Nick told her about Kaitlyn or that he got the gig before it was announce. I am glad he has an ego, everyone needs one to get where they are going as long as they use it right. IMHO

^ Totally possible, however, she's not hiding behind a fake email address or a fake name. She's out there in the open. If she was completely lying about these things well then I wonder what Nick's or the shows reaction would be? I'm not so sure Abby would want to get herself into trouble by lying, but who knows.

I'm just putting it out there because there's some good stuff too, like the information about Nick thinking he had the DWTS gig a year ago, Vanessa being the right pick for him, etc.

Objectively, it's hard to say what is what and everyone will form their own opinions. IMO there are 3 people with big egos involved and who's ego is bigger is the biggest challenge of all--RS, Abby Draper or Nick.
I do believe Nick met with Amy and did speak of the what was said. I do believe Amy turned around and shared it with RS. Only the players involved will know the degree of truth, motive and ego involved. jmo

Did Nick tell her he chooses Vanessa too?

Ash2214 wrote:

reason wrote:@Ash2214 can you summarize for us who does not do RS Please?  

The person is Abby Draper. She works in the media world and here she has proof of hanging out with Nick and even face timing him on her Twitter:

https://twitter.com/abbydraper/status/793672482200793088

I don't usually tell people to listen or read anything when it comes to RS, but this was a good listen whether you're a fan of Nick or not. Abby goes into great detail about Nick almost getting the DWTS gig a year ago, he informed her that Kaitlyn had picked Shawn before the finale and he informed her that he got the bachelor gig before it was announced last summer. She also goes into detail about how large of an ego he has as well. It was just interesting IMO.

Thanks but no thanks re:increasing RS podcast numbers  but I do know something about Nick's history with Abby.  We "Nick chicks" followed her pursuit of Nick on her SM.  I think it's a fair assessment to say she was, real or fake on her part, crushing on him. She even elicited an introduction to Nick via Dana Weiss (Possessanista).  He did finally meet up with her and gave her a vid interview - a brunch I think. Soon after that point she was "friend zoned" according to SM.  At the time, it just seemed like a humorous exchange but now that she has put herself on #teamRS who knows.
Abby is IMO a good recapper.  She used to do a video recap with Dana.  She used to be team Nick at that time.

As to RS having someone on to sully Nick - of course!  RS has made his view of Nick crystal clear and it would be shocking if RS included someone in his trash parade that didn't support his own view. I would never accuse RS of balanced reporting

reason wrote:Did Nick tell her he chooses Vanessa too?

No. she hasn't seen him since he left for filming of the bachelor. She just gave her opinion of Vanessa.