Bachelor 21 - Nick Viall - General Discussion - *Sleuthing Spoilers* #2

mindless wrote:Andi just can't make up her mind. One minute Nick is all about the cameras, next thing you know he's genuine. Okeydoke.

Well now he is on national t.v promoting her book for her and telling the audience that its not a "fictional" story so time for MeAndI to fake it and try to milk her 15 mins some more and play nicey nice BFF with the new bachelor

How did Nick even get her number to text her? Did she reveal that in the book?

Well, that could make for an interesting twist to a returnee!

Vinny Ventiera‏ @VINNYVINSANE 25 m
@theyearofelan I wanna date @viallnicholas28

elan gale‏ @theyearofelan 23 m
@VINNYVINSANE @viallnicholas28 I am well aware

Ladybug82 wrote:Well, that could make for an interesting twist to a returnee!

Vinny Ventiera‏ @VINNYVINSANE 25 m
@theyearofelan I wanna date @viallnicholas28

elan gale‏ @theyearofelan 23 m
@VINNYVINSANE @viallnicholas28 I am well aware

They did look cute together on AP

So Ashley I was interviewed about Nick being announced as the Bachelor.  She says that Nick found out Monday and it sounds like all involved were a little shocked.  If that's true, then Nick told Jen right after he found out.  She unfollowed him soon after on Monday night.  

https://www.accesshollywood.com/videos/bachelor-ashley-i-reacts-to-nick-viall-being-cast/

And is it at all possible this is the story Nick is going with--and told Ashley? Just something to think about. IMO

Kashathediva wrote:And is it at all possible this is the story Nick is going with--and told Ashley? Just something to think about. IMO

My thought is that he knew he was being "considered" but I would suspect after last year (where he had a trainer and I think did a promo video) he wouldn't let himself really believe or think it was true. And he likely found out it was 100% on the Monday night. Which if that is the case kudos to him for Jenn being one of the only people he told (at least based on the response from the rest of bachelor alumni) - or so it appears based on the SM events Monday.

I wouldn't be surprised if what Ashley said is true or at least partially true. Luke referenced "unexpected changes" happening in his post about losing the gig. Chase and Alex both genuinely seemed shocked in Chase's snap chats. James Taylor made a post on IG the other day about the gig being between two really great guys and he's close friends with both Luke and Chase. Both Jen and Nick still favoriting sweet and lovey things about each other up until Monday seems to fit as well.

Production could have known longer than Monday that they were going to pick Nick, but per usual, I wouldn't be surprised if they dragged all three of the guys around and then officially said, "Nick, it's yours. Here's the contract" on Monday. Plus, since production and Nick himself clearly tried to make this his redemption campaign, they needed to make sure he was well received since he hasn't been in the past. BIP has been on for about a month. They needed to wait it out. JMO.

Ash2214 wrote:I wouldn't be surprised if what Ashley said is true or at least partially true. Luke referenced "unexpected changes" happening in his post about losing the gig. Chase and Alex both genuinely seemed shocked in Chase's snap chats. James Taylor made a post on IG the other day about the gig being between two really great guys and he's close friends with both Luke and Chase. Both Jen and Nick still favoriting sweet and lovey things about each other up until Monday seems to fit as well.

Production could have known longer than Monday that they were going to pick Nick, but per usual, I wouldn't be surprised if they dragged all three of the guys around and then officially said, "Nick, it's yours. Here's the contract" on Monday. Plus, since production and Nick himself clearly tried to make this his redemption campaign, they needed to make sure he was well received since he hasn't been in the past. BIP has been on for about a month. They needed to wait it out. JMO.

Agreed. I think it was the "redemption tour" they were waiting on, the "shock" factor and to one up RS. I actually think they may have lead Luke on more and made Nick think while he was being considered he wasn't really. The less people know or the less accurate information they know the easier it is for them to actually "shock" people - that is what they were going for last night IMO. To do that he probably didn't have a lot of time to tell people around him. Plus the other thing was the photo they used "Runner up no longer" he was wearing a white t-shirt that looked like an undershirt did not look like a pre-planned/promo shot - then again I don't really remember what others wore but I thought it was normally a suit?

    I thought the same things about Nick's "runner up no longer" photo.  It was put together pretty last minute IMO.

^ I agree. JoJo was actually very lucky because she didn't get much hate while her season was airing, but the second she let Luke go it was like all of hell broke out. Fleiss, Mills and the producers weren't oblivious to how well liked Luke was by the majority of the fans.

I personally think Luke was their number one choice, but they wanted to see what could happen with Nick and his redemption campaign, which ended up going pretty well. Per this response from Elan, it seems like they chose to go for the shock factor and to have people talking about it, which would happen with picking Nick over Luke. JMO:

https://twitter.com/theyearofelan/status/770819291184701440

Ashley wants to go on the show to talk to the girls -- of course she does. If that happens, I hope they don't listen to her advice.