Bachelor 21 - Nick Viall - General Discussion - *Sleuthing Spoilers* #2

Lennoxcolinrolland wrote:

reason wrote:

julychild wrote:I feel like Nick has paid a lot of attention, and done his homework over the years that he won't be easily manipulated. I've mentioned recently how the tone of his tweets and interviews sounds like he is one of them, i.e, producers. It's like he is in on the joke now. Lets wait and see, I could be wrong.

Hopefully going on BIP and meeting Jen showed him that those manic girls he is typically attracted to may not be the best for him since it's never worked out with them.

I think he said something like that on the show on monday that those he thought was best for him is not working out so maybe he need to try something else.

He did say that. But ultimately, I think that personality type is probably "boring" to him IMO.

I think he liked Jen's poise but she lacked vibrancy. The two traits can co-exist.

nick is dramatic and emotional and good tv. he will be entertaining, if not the most well-liked bachelor. i'm glad they picked someone a little older this time and hope some of the girls will be older, too. some of ben's girls were painfully immature.

i think nick tends to go for outgoing brunettes. on what little airtime she got on ben's season, jen saviano could have seemed outgoing. but when nick met her on BIP, one of the first things he mentioned was that she was different from who he usually dated and not too quiet or very outgoing. i think her being mellow might have come as a surprise to him. he goes for bubbly, loud, and opinionated ladies. andi, kaitlyn, and jojo are cut from similar cloth. jen is not.

I also don't see how Nick being single after 3 stints on the show is his fault. The first two times he was ready to propose, yet didn't get the chance because the women in question fell in love with some knucklehead instead. On BIP Jen was clearly into him, but she wasn't really his type personality-wise, so why continue dating her or get engaged to her? I can't blame him for choosing the Bachelor gig over someone he's not fully into. Ben did the same thing with Tenley if rumours are true. I can't see any similarity to Brad Womack, who was never serious about finding a wife and still isn't apparently. I found his two seasons a total waste of time. I doubt that'll be the case with Nick.

The good thing about Nick is that even if his new found popularity dwindles during his season, I doubt he'll care. He's been there done that when it comes to being hated and he never let it get him down. We won't see any whining about edit and bullying, that's for sure.

Sorry, But I'm NOT buying what NICK is selling. I'm not that easily fooled.
I see him as a manipulative, low-life. I don't forget first impressions. Being on TV several times is nothing more than fame seeking. Don't tell me that he cannot find a local girl. It's not like he lives 1000 miles from civilization.
WHY does it always has to be a girl from the Bach? Nope, I'm not falling for that con-artist. I couldn't believe how he was goading Josh on Bach Pad. The sad part is that most people couldn't see through his manipulations. Instead Josh came across as unreasonable.... BTW- Nick can't be that good in bed. He got dumped after every escapade he had.

Ariela wrote:Sorry, But I'm NOT buying what NICK is selling. I'm not that easily fooled.
I see him as a manipulative, low-life. I don't forget first impressions. Being on TV several times is nothing more than fame seeking. Don't tell me that he cannot find a local girl. It's not like he lives 1000 miles from civilization.
WHY does it always has to be a girl from the Bach? Nope, I'm not falling for that con-artist. I couldn't believe how he was goading Josh on Bach Pad. The sad part is that most people couldn't see through his manipulations. Instead Josh came across as unreasonable.... BTW- Nick can't be that good in bed. He got dumped after every escapade he had.

Wow. Tell us how you really feel.

I personally think Nick is twice the man that Josh is. Different strokes I guess.

Ariela wrote:Sorry, But I'm NOT buying what NICK is selling. I'm not that easily fooled.
I see him as a manipulative, low-life. I don't forget first impressions. Being on TV several times is nothing more than fame seeking. Don't tell me that he cannot find a local girl. It's not like he lives 1000 miles from civilization.
WHY does it always has to be a girl from the Bach? Nope, I'm not falling for that con-artist. I couldn't believe how he was goading Josh on Bach Pad. The sad part is that most people couldn't see through his manipulations. Instead Josh came across as unreasonable.... BTW- Nick can't be that good in bed. He got dumped after every escapade he had.

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He might have gotten dump but one did the deed twice with him and the other went back to his apartment for a second go around and he nip that sh*t in the bud. It must have been good else why do it more than once.

Nick might be a nice enough guy (I certainly don't know) but by the time TPTB are done with him his image will be tarnished for sure.  JMHO.

So Nick is selling? As far as his job as a salesperson he put it on hold. He does sell the show good tho', but it's really TPTB that sell him. First they sold us Nick 2014 version, then 2015 and now they are trying to sell the 2016 improved one. In reality the only change is the packaging, the content is the same, only the price is higher. Because he brings money to TPTB. In return he gets what? Some bucks for more YOLOing before the time to get serious comes and hopefully love this time (so that he gets to the serious business of procreation)
As for the sales propaganda... I bought 2014 version that works perfectly fine, with no upgrades, maybe it caught some virus along the way, but considering the initial investment... It was worth it.

I'm just glad to have a season where I don't have to care and can just enjoy the snark. :cutesmile!:

reason wrote:

Ariela wrote:Sorry, But I'm NOT buying what NICK is selling. I'm not that easily fooled.
I see him as a manipulative, low-life. I don't forget first impressions. Being on TV several times is nothing more than fame seeking. Don't tell me that he cannot find a local girl. It's not like he lives 1000 miles from civilization.
WHY does it always has to be a girl from the Bach? Nope, I'm not falling for that con-artist. I couldn't believe how he was goading Josh on Bach Pad. The sad part is that most people couldn't see through his manipulations. Instead Josh came across as unreasonable.... BTW- Nick can't be that good in bed. He got dumped after every escapade he had.

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He might have gotten dump but one did the deed twice with him and the other went back to his apartment for a second go around and he nip that sh*t in the bud.  It must have been good else why do it more than once.

But we could say if Nicky boy was all that and a bag of chips, then he would have been one of those two women's final guy at the end as well ....sooooo the saga continues... with Fleiss at the helm.

Ariela wrote:Sorry, But I'm NOT buying what NICK is selling. I'm not that easily fooled.
I see him as a manipulative, low-life. I don't forget first impressions. Being on TV several times is nothing more than fame seeking. Don't tell me that he cannot find a local girl. It's not like he lives 1000 miles from civilization.
WHY does it always has to be a girl from the Bach? Nope, I'm not falling for that con-artist. I couldn't believe how he was goading Josh on Bach Pad. The sad part is that most people couldn't see through his manipulations. Instead Josh came across as unreasonable.... BTW- Nick can't be that good in bed. He got dumped after every escapade he had.

Nick & this show are a match made in heaven. Nick loves being in front of the camera & the show loves what he brings. There's no other reason that this is his 4th go around here. Producers don't feel sorry for him & want him to find love; they want him to make them $ via ratings. It's pretty simple.

Having said that, love him or hate him, Nick will bring spice to his season. He's brought it to every other season he's been part of & his time as lead will be no different.

One thing is for sure, I will not spend one moment feeling sorry for the guy if things go south for him. If anyone has ever known the ropes in terms of this show, it's Nick.

reason wrote:

Ariela wrote:Sorry, But I'm NOT buying what NICK is selling. I'm not that easily fooled.
I see him as a manipulative, low-life. I don't forget first impressions. Being on TV several times is nothing more than fame seeking. Don't tell me that he cannot find a local girl. It's not like he lives 1000 miles from civilization.
WHY does it always has to be a girl from the Bach? Nope, I'm not falling for that con-artist. I couldn't believe how he was goading Josh on Bach Pad. The sad part is that most people couldn't see through his manipulations. Instead Josh came across as unreasonable.... BTW- Nick can't be that good in bed. He got dumped after every escapade he had.

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He might have gotten dump but one did the deed twice with him and the other went back to his apartment for a second go around and he nip that sh*t in the bud.  It must have been good else why do it more than once.

Okay can you clarify for me Who did the deed twice and who went to his apartment? Sorry I gotta know