Bachelor 21 - Nick Viall - General Discussion - *Sleuthing Spoilers* #2

And I think RS said there's only 5 that he KNOWS of. So there could be more too

Hae, I don't know names, but the rumor was loudly heard in his threads since his time in Chicago ... and Nick once in an interview (sorry, can't remember the source, might be 1 done in NYC) said that he is having his fun, living his single 30s casually, but he prefers to not be limited to the franchise catalog ("embellished") ... so I would call it ... a gossip with no proof ... and that the women he actually had been with are so much more interesting, because they are so "random" of what has been said about him, even if completely random they are not.

hae1001 wrote:Idk if this has been discussed before, but on RS' blog, he said Nick has slept with 5 women from the bachelor nation that he knew of. I can think of Andi, Kaitlyn, and Jen. Any thoughts on the potential other 2?

:shocked!: I thought he only slept with women on tv.

I'm sure they weren't planning on Nick being TB a year ago; they always hope/anticipate that a reject from the most recent season will be an overwhelmingly popular and logical choice, and they wouldn't have been able to know at that point that Ben's season would spawn JoJo, whose season would then spawn....apparently nobody they were really happy with. I suspect that this past spring, as The Bachelorette was playing out and they were lining up the cast for BIP, they first came up with the idea of casting both Josh and Nick on it to replay their feud. Maybe they even had to promise Nick a shot at being the next lead in order to entice him to sign on. Then, as the action played out in Mexico and Nick's seeming normality and logic became a foil for Josh's a-holishness,they started realizing that maybe the idea of Nick as TB wasn't so far-fetched, and used the edit to further play up the dichotomy. When the show started airing and they saw how the viewers reacted, with Nick flipping from being the villain to the fan favorite, I think they made their decision to go that route as opposed to going with the original plan, which was Luke (since the fan feedback on him was "boring" and "more of the same"). I guess RS didn't get that memo.

PS. Although I do read RS to get spoilers -- I really don't care for his attitude much at all. He was so confident that he was right about Luke being the next Bachelor that he didn't really even entertain the idea that it could be anyone else. He hates being wrong. I like when his spoilers are right if I like that particular couple/outcome -- otherwise, I don't care. I will say that I am so happy that he was right about Ben picking Lauren. I do hope that Nick finds love through this process, too.

Is Sammi Steffen one? I know that Nick has hung out with her.

suzq wrote:Is Sammi Steffen one?  I know that Nick has hung out with her.

Eww

RS is just jealous Nick has 5 that he apparently knows of and RS has how many?

What type of person calls up RS and reports to him that they slept with Nick?

julychild wrote:I feel like Nick has paid a lot of attention, and done his homework over the years that he won't be easily manipulated. I've mentioned recently how the tone of his tweets and interviews sounds like he is one of them, i.e, producers. It's like he is in on the joke now. Lets wait and see, I could be wrong.

Hopefully going on BIP and meeting Jen showed him that those manic girls he is typically attracted to may not be the best for him since it's never worked out with them.

Per the bold, I think he said something like that on the show on monday, that those he thought was best for him is not working out so maybe he need to try something else.

reason wrote:

julychild wrote:I feel like Nick has paid a lot of attention, and done his homework over the years that he won't be easily manipulated. I've mentioned recently how the tone of his tweets and interviews sounds like he is one of them, i.e, producers. It's like he is in on the joke now. Lets wait and see, I could be wrong.

Hopefully going on BIP and meeting Jen showed him that those manic girls he is typically attracted to may not be the best for him since it's never worked out with them.

I think he said something like that on the show on monday that those he thought was best for him is not working out so maybe he need to try something else.

He did say that. But ultimately, I think that personality type is probably "boring" to him IMO.

Kashathediva wrote:If Nick can handle AI, K and MEandI, he can handle all kinds of cray, imo. Salt will be nothing.

I think Nick is very "real" as a person. He deals with folks in the moment, in a genuine way. With that comes an enormous freedom. He puts himself out there fearlessly and has shown he can take the hits and survive. This could be a powerful, emotional, very intensely personal season.

GuardianAngel wrote:RS is just jealous Nick has 5 that he apparently knows of and RS has how many?

What type of person calls up RS and reports to him that they slept with Nick?

I know bach nation is a gossipy group, but how would RS possibly be able to report this with any degree of certainty? He's been creeping under windowseals? hiding cameras? just bizarre.

eta: if I were Nick, I'd be terribly tempted to reply publicly, 'uh, you're underestimating my skilz dude - triple your estimate."