The Bachelorette - Season 12 - JoJo Fletcher - Epi 9 - July 25th - FS - *Sleuthing - Spoilers*

babs wrote:

Ash2214 wrote:I guess for me, especially in recent seasons, I have seen the leads pick someone from pretty much the very start of the season and it stays that way until the end. I could probably create a large list of them all. I don't see a difference this season. Personally, I view this all as a television show and I don't need the "fairy tale" of the lead picking someone once the step out of the limo and regardless, it's not JoJo's fault ABC leaked Jordan before her season started filming.

Ultimately, all involved seem to be very happy right now and ABC has gotten the best ratings for the bachelorette that they've had in years. It's a win-win IMO.

Sorry about the double post.

Ratings are not always based on who the best Bachelorette/bachelor is but also the drama.  This season Chad brought viewers in as much as JoJo did, imo.  Jordan's family issues is another draw.  Bachelorette 11 brought viewers in because some thought it was scandalous.  I think a lot of viewers were excited about JoJo being the bette but got bored early on.  The drama has kept a lot still watching.

I didn't state that the ratings were so high specifically because of JoJo, but regardless, her season is still bringing in high ratings. Chad left a few episode ago and the ratings are still great. There hasn't been some large drop off. That's all ABC cares about. JoJo gets more love than hate and considering she's now the most followed "bachelor family" member on IG, she's clearly well liked, which was evident given the reason she became the lead to begin with.

Even if people are bored by it, they're clearly still watching given how high the overall ratings are. IMO

Yes, regardless of the why's, the fact is ratings are good.

I didn't watch Ben's season, so I didn't "know" JoJo, but I've been very impressed with her on her own season. She's kind , seems to actually care about the contestants, show empathy, etc... She reminds me of Desiree in that regard.

I read a few posts upthread about Jordan getting a terrible F1 edit and I just wanted to chime in on that.  Ive only recently been spoiled and as i watched not knowing who was her F1 ( the F4 guys were sleuthed out, actually the F3 were) bit I didnt see Jordan as getting a terrible edit.  He wasnt my favorite guy...Luke is....but i didnt feel any dislike for him at all but i couldnt definitely see that Jojo was gaga over him and he was my guess for her F1 based on chemistry and my experience of how they edit the show.  Luke was my guess at next Bach based on his edit, as TPTB give the best edit by far to their next lead hopeful.  

I saw Jordans edit as them explaining how all the guys in the house were basically jealous of him due to who his brother is and Jordans own semi celebrity status.  Ive read lots of comments about how he has a hard time looking at her when hes talking and that means hes lying... I see it as a guy shy around the cameras ( yes I know he wants to be an actor but acting in front of a camera and revealing true feelings to a person youve just met is a little different IMO) and I know personally, it can be difficult looking someone in the eye when your nervous around someone youre attracted too.  

Im curious about one thing though.... When did most here start disliking him?  Was it immediately or did it happen gradually?  

I personally am lookng forward to see how they are post show and although i dont think theyll last in the long run, i do see a connection and wish them well.

I don't want to over step but can we please move edit talk, ratings, and Jordan/Jo Jo dynamic to appropriate boards?  I like to come in here to read any info on the FS episode. Thank you for understanding

northernviewer wrote:I read a few posts upthread about Jordan getting a terrible F1 edit and I just wanted to chime in on that.  Ive only recently been spoiled and as i watched not knowing who was her F1 ( the F4 guys were sleuthed out, actually the F3 were) bit I didnt see Jordan as getting a terrible edit.  He wasnt my favorite guy...Luke is....but i didnt feel any dislike for him at all but i couldnt definitely see that Jojo was gaga over him and he was my guess for her F1 based on chemistry and my experience of how they edit the show.  Luke was my guess at next Bach based on his edit, as TPTB give the best edit by far to their next lead hopeful.  

I saw Jordans edit as them explaining how all the guys in the house were basically jealous of him due to who his brother is and Jordans own semi celebrity status.  Ive read lots of comments about how he has a hard time looking at her when hes talking and that means hes lying... I see it as a guy shy around the cameras ( yes I know he wants to be an actor but acting in front of a camera and revealing true feelings to a person youve just met is a little different IMO) and I know personally, it can be difficult looking someone in the eye when your nervous around someone youre attracted too.  

Im curious about one thing though.... When did most here start disliking him?  Was it immediately or did it happen gradually?  

I personally am lookng forward to see how they are post show and although i dont think theyll last in the long run, i do see a connection and wish them well.

I've responded here, GD thread

Hey everyone! If anyone knows how to watch the show on abc go please post or DM me. I am in Chicago and abc is playing the Cubs game. It won't be on until 12:05 am and I don't want to wait so long. Might just have to....

Cecilia wrote:Hey everyone!  If anyone knows how to watch the show on abc go please post or DM me.  I am in Chicago and abc is playing the Cubs game.  It won't be on until 12:05 am and I don't want to wait so long. Might just have to....

I answered you in Jordan's fan thread, but will here too, so anyone else wondering (who might not go in the fan thread) will see.  

Here's the Viewing Links Thread.  If one of those live links doesn't work for you maybe ask in here around the start of the show airing and someone can give you another link.  Not sure about ABC go, hoepfully someone else can help you out there.

Ladybug82 wrote:

Cecilia wrote:Hey everyone!  If anyone knows how to watch the show on abc go please post or DM me.  I am in Chicago and abc is playing the Cubs game.  It won't be on until 12:05 am and I don't want to wait so long. Might just have to....

I answered you in Jordan's fan thread, but will here too, so anyone else wondering (who might go in the fan thread) will see.  

Here's the Viewing Links Thread.  If one of those live links doesn't work for you maybe ask in here around the start of the show airing and someone can give you another link.  Not sure about ABC go, hoepfully someone else can help you out there.

Thank you! My question is specifically about abc go since I don't really want to use one of those illegal sites. So if anyone knows when episodes go up on demand on abc go I would appreciate it. If this was any other episode I would just wait but it's FANTASY SUITES. MY favorite.

I've used the ABC Go app before to make SC's but not during or immediately after the live show.  Nor have I tried to watch it on the app, so I'm not much help there.

I've always had to wait until the epi is uploaded/available on demand the next morning.  Generally it's around mid morning before it's available but sometimes earlier, sometimes later.

Ladybug82 wrote:I've used the ABC Go app before to make SC's but not during or immediately after the live show.  Nor have I tried to watch it on the app, so I'm not much help there.

I've always had to wait until the epi is uploaded/available on demand the next morning.  Generally it's around mid morning before it's available but sometimes earlier, sometimes later.

Thanks Ladybug82! Guess I will be trying to stay up until 2am tonight. Ugh.

@Cecilia There is a 'watch live' option on ABC Go: http://abc.go.com/watch-live