The Bachelorette - Season 12 - JoJo Fletcher - General Discussion - *Sleuthing - Spoilers* - #4

Ladybug82 wrote:I agree.  Does he have to disclose the history?  

I wouldn't think he advertised it was a Bach/Ette ring that had been returned because the relationship went up in flames.  Not a great advertising or selling point!  

GuardianAngel wrote:I would never want one, bad karma.

JBF wrote:

LukeFan wrote:I've posted in another thread but not sure where was the best place.

Here's a new "sneak peek" video with a few words from Luke about why he pulled JoJo aside at the RC...

http://abcnews.go.com/Entertainment/bachelorette-sneak-peek-luke-explains-pulled-jojo/story?id=40784629

I am rather surprised at how Jordan and Robby are being edited in that promo. Chase is... well... Chase. Unimportant to the story.

Robby asks if Jordan thinks Luke is "bowing out" with a certain degree of hope. This line follows what he said in last week's episode of just wanting to get on the plane to his next "adventure" like he's Speedy Gonzales and knows he's Numero Uno regardless of who goes next. Usually F1s are not THAT confident.

Jordan is delightfully swarmy with a "yeah, right" expression narrating what happens: "She's ready to call the first rose and Luke pulls her aside..."

Robby whispers something sinister to his bro-buddy: "He's not going to... ??... " Jordan glares back as if both are Drizella and Anastasia seeing Cinderella arrive with a ball dress made by all of the mice and birds. Man! Those guys look MEAN! (Maybe not in reality, but the editors are clearly enjoying themselves. Curious why.)

During this line of Jordan's, the camera stays focused exclusively on Luke and not Jordan as if this might be some sort of foreshadowing. Even if Luke does leave in this episode, he is going to impact Jordan's future is in some way. "I was confident coming in, but now there's a chance that... she changed her mind?" Well... maybe not THIS episode, but perhaps later?

However Jordan's "That worries me" is spoken over... Chase. This suggests that Chase may be in more danger NOW than Jordan, if not later...

Robby is talking a lot like Nick often did in Andi's season, trying to psycho-analyze the competition. "I can't really read Luke. I don't know if he's trying to change her mind over something last minute." then he speaks over JoJo since he can't read HER any better than Luke: "I don't know what to think at this point, but I'm nervous."

All of Luke's talk is simply over himself and her.

Frymama wrote:

Max64 wrote:I wasn't going to fall into the trap, as I do every season, that there's going to be a twist at the end, but I will admit that something seems off to me. I don't understand the "over drama" of Luke and his departure. From what we have seen so far, JoJo's connection is stronger with Luke than with Robby or Chase, so why would she send him home at f4? The excuse that he hasn't said ILY is lame, because he has said he's falling for her. JoJo's reaction to him leaving is way OTT, IMO for a f4 guy to going home. Her saying that "she misses him already" and "what if she made a mistake", to me is left in for a reason.

So let me throw this out there.... There are no SC's of Luke after HTD's but why aren't there any of Jordan either? What if Luke does come back and they can't show any SC's of him in the promo's because it would ruin the drama of him going home at F4 RC?

Yes, I know the odds of this are insanely small, but hey, what the heck, it's always fun to speculate.

Still think this is quite possible, even though it could all just be the drama for his being the lead. So many things still do not seem right. I have stayed off here for several days now and have not posted. I will just see how it plays out. Glad to know several other feel things do not add up. Still love my Cowboy and very sad at how quiet he has been on SM for a looooooong time now. #sadface #ScotchyForever

JBF wrote:

Max64 wrote:I wasn't going to fall into the trap, as I do every season, that there's going to be a twist at the end, but I will admit that something seems off to me. I don't understand the "over drama" of Luke and his departure. From what we have seen so far, JoJo's connection is stronger with Luke than with Robby or Chase, so why would she send him home at f4? The excuse that he hasn't said ILY is lame, because he has said he's falling for her. JoJo's reaction to him leaving is way OTT, IMO for a f4 guy to going home. Her saying that "she misses him already" and "what if she made a mistake", to me is left in for a reason.

So let me throw this out there.... There are no SC's of Luke after HTD's but why aren't there any of Jordan either? What if Luke does come back and they can't show any SC's of him in the promo's because it would ruin the drama of him going home at F4 RC?

Yes, I know the odds of this are insanely small, but hey, what the heck, it's always fun to speculate.

Ha ha! A couple of us here keep going back to Mesnick over and over again and we don't know why we have this silly "vibe".



You know Mike Fleiss wants a Jason Bachelorette edition ssssoooooo badly. (And don't tell me there wasn't any "pre planning" in his season and this one. This show is never 75% reality. More like 25% reality and 75% storyboard.)

The tabloids keep suggesting that she is in love with somebody other than her final pick and most as ASSUMING he is the F2 dumpee, but he just may be F4 instead. Every season, the lead says that their relationship with F1 only begins AFTER the show anyway. Yeah, they get extra time on fantasy overnights and last chance dates, but they don't get much of a "honeymoon" until after FRC. Also we have that repeating song "from the ground up" (which was played on Luke's hometown without the band present, unless they were hiding in the bushes). The song is all about starting from scratch. Luke and Daddy discussed about taking things slow.

Which is what Jason and Molly did after Melissa got that sports reporter job... or was it Dancing With The Stars? I forget.

Robby is like the rabbit in Aesop. Thinking he has it in the bag because he was first to tell her ILY. Also she had no trouble getting him to romp through the hotel hallway in his undies. You can only imagine what Neil Lane will get him to do.

Jordan's story was way too focused on Bruthah Aaron rather than the Jordan/JoJo relation. Maybe he is her F1 and maybe he is her future hubbie... and, yeah, I think they DO make an cute, if amusing, odd couple. But we aren't getting all that much future talk on screen regarding them anymore than we did with Jason and Melissa, while Luke keeps saying he is going to move to Seattle... oops! Wrong season. I get them all so confused. Mostly, it is all about Aaron, Aaron, Aaron. I completely lost it when they showed two empty chairs at the Rogers house-hold and JoJo once again, for the umpteenth time, brought up who was missing in action. What did she want? Aaron's autograph?