The Bachelorette 12 - JoJo Fletcher - S/Caps - SM - Sleuthing - Discussion - *Sleuthing - Spoilers* #2

Blob. Jesse Palmer. PLo. All blowing smoke.

IMO the hard part for JoJo will be the doubt that sets in when she and Jordan are apart.  That little nagging feeling and anxiety of wondering if he is being faithful.  She has been down this road before so she knows the drill.  Too bad she did not pick someone with a more loyal and solid track record.

JMO

^^^^Don't forget Travis the doctor and his "ring on a string."

You know one couple that was NOT blowing smoke and was pretty genuine (albeit with major issues) for an entire year was Jillian and Ed. If JoJo and Jordan appear a united front, which I'm guessing they will, it doesn't automatically mean they are faking it. This kind of situation could easily create an "us against the world/have something to prove" mentality. I think we are already seeing that start with all the liking of the "good quotes" and what not. That doesn't mean I think this will end in marriage, but just that they could last longer than people think.

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I don't see Jo and BBJ as Jill and Ed. I think there were different fundamental issues. Ed didn't love Jill and never did, but got caught up in the hoopla. I think BBJ might struggle with being a bad boy womanizer and enjoy fun, but I don't think he would have stayed if he didn't accidentally fall for Jo

I do think they'll present as a united front and agree it's already started. They have as much chance as any of these couples afterwards so who knows.

Alanna wrote:I don't see Jo and BBJ as Jill and Ed. I think there were different fundamental issues. Ed didn't love Jill and never did, but got caught up in the hoopla. I think BBJ might struggle with being a bad boy womanizer, enjoy fun but I don't think he would have stayed if he didn't accidentally gap for Jo

Ed loved Jillian. He said as much many times, just that he was not in a place in his life where he was ready for that kind of quick commitment. So in that regard, yes, he did get caught up in the hoopla. But he loved her. I followed both pretty closely, and both have maintained there was definite love there.

I actually see a shocking amount of similarities between Jo^3 and Jillian/Ed. Jo and Jillian always going for the wrong type, they love those bad boys, and Ed/Jordan basically being fun loving people, caught up, maybe fell in love ... But just not ready. Unless Jordan proves me wrong, but not holding my breath here.

^^Yes IA, Ed loved Jillian but still was a frat boy and she thought she could change him. Lesson learned. But they stayed together one year after the FRC.

I think JoJo and Jordon face a similar challenge, but JoJo has to first face her own fears and what she really wants from the relationship first regardless of Jordon's bad boy image. JMO.

Have to agree with that.

Maybe he seemed iffy during the seadon, but after it changed.

Just because the couple breaks up doesn't mean that there was a wrong choice made by the lead nor that there is something sinister about the relationship from this show.
RL couples can barely make it.

I don't think at any time did Ed ever fall for Jillian but she hung in there hoping things would change for the better until she realized that was never going to happen.

Jordan, is someone I could care less about. IMO they are the same couple as Josh and Andi only with different names and faces.

Jojo picked Jordan cause she hasn't fixed her picker yet. Maybe in a few years she will. She said herself she picks the bad boys and IMO she has continued by picking him.

Andi told us she always picked the jocks and she did in her season and it worked out for her as all the other jocks have before him.

I don't know how long they will stay together but I am expecting the same ending.

Sorry guys, nothing will ever convince me that Ed ever fell in love with Jill for real, despite what he says. Both seem to have found love now so that's good. Either way, I can't compare them to BBJ and Jo myself, at this point anyway.

And another similarity... RS really, and I mean really had it out for both men.

I just hope JoJo doesn't let this affect her as much as it did Jillian. At the time, Jill put on quite the brave face, but years later has talked about how she couldn't eat, couldn't sleep, got down to 90lbs. The scrutiny, the tabloids, the endless judgments, Reality Steve... It was all very difficult for her.