Ben Higgins - Lauren Bushnell - Bachelor 20 - Discussion - #2

SarahD wrote:I just don't think Lauren lives her life to impress people. If Lauren is some shallow person, she would have stayed in LA to pursue fame as opposed to uprooting her life and taking a leap of faith in the move to Denver.  

Someone who can make such sacrifice for a person she loves to make a relationship work is selfless and evidence of an amazing woman.

I respect your opinion, but as a person who gave up her life and things she was successful at and loved to be with the man she loved, I don't think it made me or anyone else selfless or amazing, it makes us good and people who love. And I have never once claimed that Lauren doesn't have real feelings for Ben.

I think lots of things go into selfless and amazing, so one action doesn't do it for me. I know that I moved to be with a man who had a more stable and better job than I did and was more settled than I was, so it made absolutely no sense for him to give up all he had accomplished when I could move easier and find another job easier. To me that is part of relationships and life. Maybe if I had not done what Lauren is being admired for myself, I might be more impressed, but I have and did it twice actually for the same man. To me that is simply part of life and love.

And unlike most of people in their mid 20s she has been given the luxury to find her passion instead of having to rush to have a job to help support herself or her family, so I think that tops the list of positives that Lauren has gotten out of this, right after a fiance that she loves and who very obviously loves and adores her. In addition she has gotten a heck of a lot of other things out of it, she has gotten lots of travel and cool concerts and appearance opportunities that weren't there when she was just Lauren living in LA, she is documenting their lives on snap chat and getting lots of SM love (and some negativity), which Ben seems to put up with not really enjoy, she has been a spokesperson at events for Alaska Air, she seems to be getting loads of the free fashion and beauty freebes that she also enjoys, and now her own tv show. She has done pretty well for giving up her jobless or low paying hard work life sharing an apartment in LA. Show me something more than moving to Denver and not working to impress me, again and as always, JMO.

^^ Yes. She has gotten a lot of perks, just like most from this franchise who make it far enough on the show. She's a lucky girl. And she has always maintained a level head, a kind persona, and expressed gratitude for what she has been offered and the life she lives with Ben. She is kind towards others, including "other woman" JoJo, who is actually her friend, though she gets compared to her constantly, usually with her losing out. She's mature and handled a messy dual ILY situation with a level head, calm and rational, Chris Seigfried style. She's never said a bad word about anyone, to my knowledge, and only had one misstep in the last 6 months where she lost it on IG over skinny shaming. She's all class. And she's young with a lot of life left in front of her, her "story" isn't over yet, it's just started. Good enough for me.

sosleepy wrote:^^ Yes. She has gotten a lot of perks, just like most from this franchise who make it far enough on the show. She's a lucky girl. And she has always maintained a level head, a kind persona, and expressed gratitude for what she has been offered and the life she lives with Ben. She is kind towards others, including "other woman" JoJo, who is actually her friend, though she gets compared to her constantly, usually with her losing out. She's mature and handled a messy dual ILY situation with a level head, calm and rational, Chris Seigfried style. She's never said a bad word about anyone, to my knowledge, and only had one misstep in the last 6 months where she lost it on IG over skinny shaming. She's all class. And she's young with a lot of life left in front of her, her "story" isn't over yet, it's just started. Good enough for me.

Good post Sleepy, I think Ben and Lauren are handling everything very well. They are not accepting everything that comes there way on a whim. They are selective with what they accept on what's best for them. That is rare for people on this show that usually jump on anything that comes there way. I will never understand why Lauren has to jump into a job or career to make her a better person. Everyone is different and she will find what's best for her in time.

Ben and Lauren are genuinely kind, considerate, compassionate people. Like I said the other day, now a' days that's worth a whole lot. They fight negativity with positivity and nothing more. That's something to admire all in itself.

IMO.

sosleepy wrote:^^ Yes. She has gotten a lot of perks, just like most from this franchise who make it far enough on the show. She's a lucky girl. And she has always maintained a level head, a kind persona, and expressed gratitude for what she has been offered and the life she lives with Ben. She is kind towards others, including "other woman" JoJo, who is actually her friend, though she gets compared to her constantly, usually with her losing out. She's mature and handled a messy dual ILY situation with a level head, calm and rational, Chris Seigfried style. She's never said a bad word about anyone, to my knowledge, and only had one misstep in the last 6 months where she lost it on IG over skinny shaming. She's all class. And she's young with a lot of life left in front of her, her "story" isn't over yet, it's just started. Good enough for me.

I have admired the way she handled the whole two ILYs and after show media. I am glad that she and JoJo are friends, since it was neither of their faults that they were put into a two ILY situation. I also admire that she was able to see that those two ILYs were a factor of the show and not something that should get in the way of her long term happiness with Ben. I am glad that she unlike many women did not blame JoJo and could see that it was not on either of the women that the situation happened. I was happy to see Whitney and Becca be friends after the show and it is nice that Lauren and JoJo are positive towards each other as well, we don't get that with the F2 women very often.

I do think she has been very graceful and kind, she is not a bad person at all. I don't think that I have said she is a bad person, I just think she is not doing very much with an incredible opportunity and to me that is because she doesn't care to. As many have said, it doesn't make her bad, it just doesn't make her amazing or totally selfless IMO. I am not even sure that I go with all class, as I don't personally care for the look at me being pretty and the obsession on her body, but that is again JMO. She is not a bad person, I just don't admire her, just like I fail to admire most who come out of this franchise. I will probably grow to ignore her as I do most once I am no longer being hit over the head with talk of the amazing Lauren.

I don't think there is such a thing as perfection from anyone and if there was it would probably be pretty boring. And that is the thing about Lauren, without something more from her, she is just boring and surface level to me. JMO, as I know most really like her.

BTW and completely off topic. I enjoy watching JoJo on her show and but I be disappointed in her as well if she doesn't take advantage of her amazing opportunity as well and just gives me fashion selfies and self involvement, I do try to be fair and if I criticize one from this franchise for doing something criticize them all for the same thing.

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The cue cards are hilarious. Reality television is so ridiculous

Beige pure and simple, nothing to like, nothing to dislike.
If I sit down to watch a show, I want a show. If I want to watch
paint dry I'll have my rooms painted. The best part of that season
was the posting. Never laughed so much. When they were trying
to figure out who was sitting in the back of the limo Jo or Lauren.

I guess not everyone has to be amazing or above average. 
I'm not amazing and probably just average. I'm ok with that. 
I got my BSN when I knew a lot of my classmates were going to get their MSN or PHD's. I was happy with my degree doing what I was going to do. I did it for 37 yrs. The happiest I ever was was sitting on the floor with my 2 lil kids playing. I do that with my my grandson now and love every minute. 
I do my own share of giving back and volunteering, but nothing off the charts. 
I hope I am a good friend and family member, but probably not the best and IMO not the worst.
I expect I have not made the most of my own strengths. I'm human. It's ok. I'm thankful for what I've been given and hope to have more in my future.. 
As far as anyone else in life, it's not my business, but I expect for many it's similar. 
It's ok. IMO

Ash2214 wrote:https://instagram.com/p/BHcsbQJAMX4/

The cue cards are hilarious. Reality television is so ridiculous

Hehe. That IS funny. Wth do they need cue cards for...?

Kasha, if I could I'd push the like button on your post a few hundred times.

That was lovely Kasha, you also contribute to the sanity 
on board with levity. Love you for that. 

Nonina430 wrote:That that was lovely Kasha, you also contribute to the sanity 
on board with levity. Love you for that. 

yes... thank you lovely honest and true post.