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Re: NO SPOILERS - ROBBY - Bachelorette 12 - *Sleuthing - NO Spoilers*
There will be no chink in Robby's armor! :Knight: The truth shall prevail!
MiaHawk- Posts : 2946
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Re: NO SPOILERS - ROBBY - Bachelorette 12 - *Sleuthing - NO Spoilers*
Watching Robby's HTD reinforced all the reasons why I feel he is the best match for her.
He is adorable, sweet, romantic. They both light up like Christmas trees around each other.
She fits in perfectly with his large, warm, fun loving family. Robby loves the fact that she fits so well with his family, and I have no doubts that her family will love him just as much. Compatible family values is so important.
Robby is a great communicator. Not only is he emotionally aware, he can verbalize his thoughts and feelings so well. Direct, honest, open. He wanted to know all of her concerns and dug deeper to reassure her and to inquire about her feelings of nervousness. He wasn't just concerned with giving her the answers. He wanted to make sure that they could move past this together as a couple, as a team. That is what being a spouse is all about. That also shows me what a great father and role model he will be.
His story about his ex confirmed all of the things I had suspected . He was emotionally over the relationship long before it ended in December. He gave her a chance to make needed changes for the relationship, but when she did not, he could no longer give her the benefit of the doubt. Sounds like in March 2015 he knew things weren't working well, so he communicated what he was unhappy with and said what improvements in their relationship would be necessary for it to continue. Then his best friend died in April. He had to process a lot of feelings and he made lots of changes in his life to improve his level of satisfaction - new job, new city, thoughts of ending this failing relationship. He gave the ex months to see if things would get better, but they did not. Obviously, it ended with a very bad blow up. So bad that she resorted to slapping him. That is never justified. I think that there must be many things about the ex that are 'negative variables', and while I don't like to see exes thrown under a bus or even talked about on tv, she kind of forced his hand. With her roommate starting these rumors, Robby had to give Jojo details about what happened and why he will never go back to her. Good for him that he has never spoken to the ex since the fight. Hope he continues to take the high road. I havent read SM, obviously, but making up lies about somebody for revenge is wrong. I dont really feel badly for the ex that Robby gave those details on TV ( there were probably many other things he could have added, I'm sure). He had to explain things to Jojo.
I'm sure that each member of Robby's family was able to vouch for Robby and give Jojo more insight into the ex. She sure seemed happy and at ease with things when they walked out to the car. And the look in her eyes when Robby leaned into the car for a final kiss was one of love and contentment.
He is adorable, sweet, romantic. They both light up like Christmas trees around each other.
She fits in perfectly with his large, warm, fun loving family. Robby loves the fact that she fits so well with his family, and I have no doubts that her family will love him just as much. Compatible family values is so important.
Robby is a great communicator. Not only is he emotionally aware, he can verbalize his thoughts and feelings so well. Direct, honest, open. He wanted to know all of her concerns and dug deeper to reassure her and to inquire about her feelings of nervousness. He wasn't just concerned with giving her the answers. He wanted to make sure that they could move past this together as a couple, as a team. That is what being a spouse is all about. That also shows me what a great father and role model he will be.
His story about his ex confirmed all of the things I had suspected . He was emotionally over the relationship long before it ended in December. He gave her a chance to make needed changes for the relationship, but when she did not, he could no longer give her the benefit of the doubt. Sounds like in March 2015 he knew things weren't working well, so he communicated what he was unhappy with and said what improvements in their relationship would be necessary for it to continue. Then his best friend died in April. He had to process a lot of feelings and he made lots of changes in his life to improve his level of satisfaction - new job, new city, thoughts of ending this failing relationship. He gave the ex months to see if things would get better, but they did not. Obviously, it ended with a very bad blow up. So bad that she resorted to slapping him. That is never justified. I think that there must be many things about the ex that are 'negative variables', and while I don't like to see exes thrown under a bus or even talked about on tv, she kind of forced his hand. With her roommate starting these rumors, Robby had to give Jojo details about what happened and why he will never go back to her. Good for him that he has never spoken to the ex since the fight. Hope he continues to take the high road. I havent read SM, obviously, but making up lies about somebody for revenge is wrong. I dont really feel badly for the ex that Robby gave those details on TV ( there were probably many other things he could have added, I'm sure). He had to explain things to Jojo.
I'm sure that each member of Robby's family was able to vouch for Robby and give Jojo more insight into the ex. She sure seemed happy and at ease with things when they walked out to the car. And the look in her eyes when Robby leaned into the car for a final kiss was one of love and contentment.
MiaHawk- Posts : 2946
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Re: NO SPOILERS - ROBBY - Bachelorette 12 - *Sleuthing - NO Spoilers*
We see Jojo distraught and physically feeling ill over eliminating Luke last night. She is struggling with processing everything. Is she feeling so upset and nervous to go through the process of saying good bye to a good man who just doesnt happen to be the best man for her? Or is her anxiety actually due to her fear over making a mistake or her gut telling her she is making a mistake? There are physical manifestations of our emotions. Fear, nervousness, dread, anxiety, sadness - they all have overlapping manifestations, making it sometimes difficult to sort out what our 'gut feelings' are. That is when you must rely on our thoughts and judgments. I think when she calms down after her talk with Luke, she will focus on her thoughts of compatibility and husband traits and go forward with Luke's elimination. (sorry, Lost) I think he is an incredible man. Jojo thinks he is an incredible man. Just not the best pick for HER husband.
Seeing this emotional roller coaster she is experiencing, I am more convinced than ever that there are 2 FRCs. I think she will need more time, either to make her final choice between F1 and F2, or more likely to accept a proposal from her F1. I think she will let Jordan go. I am not convinced at all that the VOs in the FRC SCs go with the actual scenes. i am not convinced that Jordan actually does something that is not right. I think it is just that she does not feel as much love coming from Jordan, whether that is because his feelings arent as strong for her or because he doesnt express his love the way she needs it to be. That is why Robby is the perfect match for her. He loves her whole heartedly and can express that to her in the manner she likes and needs.
Jojo has said multiple times that she wants to be engaged at the end of this. This season is set up to feel like that is the ultimate goal and anything short of that will feel like a failure. So, I believe Robby will be the last man standing, he will give her a bracelet at FRC, they will continue to be together post season in safe house dates, etc, like usual, but that Robby will then gather his and her families together at a 2nd FRC in CA, and propose. This will give them time as a couple, time for Jojo to get over her emotions for Jordan, time to officially ask Jojos father for her hand in marriage, more time to deal with the fallout over exes, more time to fall deeper in love with one another. It will be the perfect ending!!! All those footprints in the sand?....Mother Hayes, Coach Hayes, Katie, Grace, JohnMichael, Patrick, Meema, Grandpa, Mrs Fletcher, Mr Fletcher.........you get the picture!!!! :dancingdoggy:
Seeing this emotional roller coaster she is experiencing, I am more convinced than ever that there are 2 FRCs. I think she will need more time, either to make her final choice between F1 and F2, or more likely to accept a proposal from her F1. I think she will let Jordan go. I am not convinced at all that the VOs in the FRC SCs go with the actual scenes. i am not convinced that Jordan actually does something that is not right. I think it is just that she does not feel as much love coming from Jordan, whether that is because his feelings arent as strong for her or because he doesnt express his love the way she needs it to be. That is why Robby is the perfect match for her. He loves her whole heartedly and can express that to her in the manner she likes and needs.
Jojo has said multiple times that she wants to be engaged at the end of this. This season is set up to feel like that is the ultimate goal and anything short of that will feel like a failure. So, I believe Robby will be the last man standing, he will give her a bracelet at FRC, they will continue to be together post season in safe house dates, etc, like usual, but that Robby will then gather his and her families together at a 2nd FRC in CA, and propose. This will give them time as a couple, time for Jojo to get over her emotions for Jordan, time to officially ask Jojos father for her hand in marriage, more time to deal with the fallout over exes, more time to fall deeper in love with one another. It will be the perfect ending!!! All those footprints in the sand?....Mother Hayes, Coach Hayes, Katie, Grace, JohnMichael, Patrick, Meema, Grandpa, Mrs Fletcher, Mr Fletcher.........you get the picture!!!! :dancingdoggy:
MiaHawk- Posts : 2946
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Re: NO SPOILERS - ROBBY - Bachelorette 12 - *Sleuthing - NO Spoilers*
^^We shall see my friend...we shall see.
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Re: NO SPOILERS - ROBBY - Bachelorette 12 - *Sleuthing - NO Spoilers*
Lost17 wrote:^^We shall see my friend...we shall see.
Or......those could be unicorn hoof prints in the CA sand! :Bubba:
Or.......it could be Robby! Doing things in his Robbyesque ways! Squeeeee! I love that! He is her good old fashioned lover boy!!!
https://youtu.be/iNuN6k8GE1c
MiaHawk- Posts : 2946
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Re: NO SPOILERS - ROBBY - Bachelorette 12 - *Sleuthing - NO Spoilers*
These are my emotions right now:
:crazy dance: danceround :cheerpom:
I'm really happy that Robby's HTD was edited such that they addressed Jojo's concerns over Robby having closure with the ex. They actually did a very good job of showing that Jojo had these concerns because she had rushed into a rebound relationship in her past to fill a void. Typically the editing leaves me confused as to why the lead has concerns over certain things. This they presented well. We knew that Jojo had concerns that Robby may not be ready to commit and propose, but their conversations really explored her other worries.
Then, they showed the mother-son conversation in enough depth that you could really get a sense of their bond and the backstory of the rumor. I am positive that Jojo got an earful later that night from each family member explaining what the previous relationship was really like. I'm sure that they were open and didn't hold anything back.
Next we see Robby take the bull by the horns. I loved that. It wasn't easy. It wasn't the conversation that he wanted to have with her, but he needed to have with her. I loved their communication back and forth. Robby wanted to say as little as possible about the ex, but when he saw that Jojo needed more details he provided them. He did so in a direct and honest way, but not in a vengeful or angry way. He is a sweet man. His parents raised him right.
The thing about Robby is that he IS emotionally intelligent, just like Jojo said. After giving some details about the ex, she still had some unease. Robby dug deeper to give her more details to paint a fuller picture for her. After giving her this additional info about the ex, he asked her how she was feeling about everything. When she voiced nervousness he responded in such a loving and supportive way. They trust one another enough to be completely honest and vulnerable with one another. He cradles her in love, and she does the same for him. It was really a beautiful thing to watch.
People have been commenting all season that Robby is just the physical guy and they are not connected on a deeper or more emotional level. Anyone who still doubts the level of intimacy between them should go back and re-watch their date a few more times. What I saw on my tv were 2 people who really have a shot at happily ever after/til death do us part kind of love. They have the experiences to know what they want, the desire to make the relationship work, the skill set to get through life's rough patches, and 2 loving and supportive families to lean on.
I may be a Team of one, but I'm a resolute Team of one.
:crazy dance: danceround :cheerpom:
I'm really happy that Robby's HTD was edited such that they addressed Jojo's concerns over Robby having closure with the ex. They actually did a very good job of showing that Jojo had these concerns because she had rushed into a rebound relationship in her past to fill a void. Typically the editing leaves me confused as to why the lead has concerns over certain things. This they presented well. We knew that Jojo had concerns that Robby may not be ready to commit and propose, but their conversations really explored her other worries.
Then, they showed the mother-son conversation in enough depth that you could really get a sense of their bond and the backstory of the rumor. I am positive that Jojo got an earful later that night from each family member explaining what the previous relationship was really like. I'm sure that they were open and didn't hold anything back.
Next we see Robby take the bull by the horns. I loved that. It wasn't easy. It wasn't the conversation that he wanted to have with her, but he needed to have with her. I loved their communication back and forth. Robby wanted to say as little as possible about the ex, but when he saw that Jojo needed more details he provided them. He did so in a direct and honest way, but not in a vengeful or angry way. He is a sweet man. His parents raised him right.
The thing about Robby is that he IS emotionally intelligent, just like Jojo said. After giving some details about the ex, she still had some unease. Robby dug deeper to give her more details to paint a fuller picture for her. After giving her this additional info about the ex, he asked her how she was feeling about everything. When she voiced nervousness he responded in such a loving and supportive way. They trust one another enough to be completely honest and vulnerable with one another. He cradles her in love, and she does the same for him. It was really a beautiful thing to watch.
People have been commenting all season that Robby is just the physical guy and they are not connected on a deeper or more emotional level. Anyone who still doubts the level of intimacy between them should go back and re-watch their date a few more times. What I saw on my tv were 2 people who really have a shot at happily ever after/til death do us part kind of love. They have the experiences to know what they want, the desire to make the relationship work, the skill set to get through life's rough patches, and 2 loving and supportive families to lean on.
I may be a Team of one, but I'm a resolute Team of one.
MiaHawk- Posts : 2946
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^Mia, it sounded to me that you and JoJo like the same things about Robbie. She's very interested in emotionally expressive men. If the girlfriend thing is untrue about Robbie, then I feel terrible for him to be slandered.
His family was precious--loved his mom!
His family was precious--loved his mom!
veg_out- Posts : 4089
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Yes, I have an appreciation for many of Robby's personality and character traits. I find him physically, intellectually, mentally, and emotionally attractive. One of the things I like most is his ability to communicate - whether it's a witty quip, a flirty comment, a direct answer to a question, or an expression of gratitude for Jojo's time.
I do think that I understand what Jojo sees in Robby and why she fell madly in love with him. If, on the off chance that I have projected too many of my own thoughts and feelings onto Jojo, and she does not pick Robby, I am confident that he will make some lucky lady very happy one day.
I do think that I understand what Jojo sees in Robby and why she fell madly in love with him. If, on the off chance that I have projected too many of my own thoughts and feelings onto Jojo, and she does not pick Robby, I am confident that he will make some lucky lady very happy one day.
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Paging @MiaHawk !!!
A couple bleachable moments from Robby's HTD, you might like.
I can't embed the video from the ABC site or the tweet, but the link is safe. Video only, no comments or text.
Don't Bug Jojo
Robby and Jojo Get Carried Away
A couple bleachable moments from Robby's HTD, you might like.
I can't embed the video from the ABC site or the tweet, but the link is safe. Video only, no comments or text.
Don't Bug Jojo
Robby and Jojo Get Carried Away
Ladybug82- Posts : 9471
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Thank you, Ladybug, for thinking of me! Robby and Jojo make such a cute couple.
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I think I'm starting to get nervous. I'm having doubts. I'm not so certain about who Jojo is going to pick. One minute I'm convinced it will be Robby. The next minute I think - What if it's not Robby? Will she pick Jordan like everybody has been predicting? Will she bring Luke or Chase to Thailand and to the end? Since night one I've thought it will be Robby, but what if I'm wrong? I don't care about being wrong. I've been wrong about plenty of things plenty of times before. What I do care about is what my being wrong means for Robby. I know you all can relate to this. It sucks for the men that make it to the top 4, bring Jojo home to their families, and then get eliminated. It is hard to watch the RCs in these final few episodes. I think they are going to be gut wrenching to watch. I hate to see the contestants get hurt. It makes me feel sad for them, especially this group of guys. They are a good group of guys. I like Jojo, too. It is going to be rough to watch. I guess we just have to keep in mind that everything happens for a reason, and even the guys who don't end up with Jojo will have gained something valuable from this experience.
I need to take a deep breath because thinking about how TPTB have fooled me in the past, I'm going slightly mad!
I need to take a deep breath because thinking about how TPTB have fooled me in the past, I'm going slightly mad!
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