Bachelor New Zealand - Jordan Mauger - Season 2 - Episode Discussion - *Sleuthing* - *Spoilers*- #2

HEA wrote:anyone interested that I make some s/caps of this episode 16?

Yes me pretty please.
I was waiting for that the whole day.
I should've been forward and just ask lool.

I guess I couldn't be one of the girls competing to win Jordan since i can't even ask for screencaps

djogbenyuie wrote:

HEA wrote:anyone interested that I make some s/caps of this episode 16?

Yes me pretty please.
I was waiting for that the whole day.
I should've been forward and just ask lool.

I guess I couldn't be one of the girls competing to win Jordan since i can't even ask for screencaps

ok will do. it is fun to do s/caps. It also gives me the opportunity to catch facial expressions

Intro: Mike Puru says: after 28 beautiful dates and we see the dates

1. group date with Naz, Claudia and Gab


2. single date with erin


3. single date with kate (parachute)

4. single date with fleur (with voice over: that was the best I ever)


5. group date showin naz jumping the rope from the pirate boat


and 15 roses ceremonies (showing 4 lines and last with top 4)

and 19 bachelorettes says their good-byes

1. Anna
2. one i forgot her name first night (the doctor)
3. Ceri
4. Kate (with her good-byes speech)

(no mention of storm at all)

Now only 4 girls remain:

1. Naz (2 frames)



2. Fleur


3. Erin 4 frames)





4. Gabrielle



then preview of the episode

1. cave and earrings

2. Naz, Gab and Jordan biking

3. jordan drying a tear on naz face


4. Jordan kissing Gab


5. Fleur at CP leaving "I'm over this. I'm done"


and last we see jordan struggling at the last rose

(if you want more s/caps, let me know)

if I just analyze this intro my thoughts are:

- erin got an awful lot of exposure
- Naz comes second
- Fleur shows in Volcano (as usual) and seen struggling (again)
- lot of group date for Naz
- Lot of single date for erin
- few kisses with several: erin, fleur
- romantic with several: erin, naz, fleur

If I did not know the show at all, I would say Erin is F1, Naz F2, Fleur F3, Gav F4

mercieme wrote:GA....Fleur also got earrings from Michael Hill on her SD so the season is sorta all over the place.

And yeah thanks AAL for the recap....I don't even need to watch the show again because your recaps are so on point

And I guess we can just sit back & watch Fleur become F1 at this point

Thanks! I didn't know that. Well forget that theory then.

HEA wrote:if I just analyze this intro my thoughts are:

- erin got an awful lot of exposure
- Naz comes second
- Fleur shows in Volcano (as usual) and seen struggling (again)
- lot of group date for Naz
- Lot of single date for erin
- few kisses with several: erin, fleur
- romantic with several: erin, naz, fleur

If I did not know the show at all, I would say Erin is F1, Naz F2, Fleur F3, Gav F4

Thanks for the recap....I feel like I am on a roll now with guessing the order of elimination, Kate then Gabs.

Just for kicks I would like it to be the way you have it stated that is next should be Fleur, followed by Naz with Erin as F1.

However with Fleur posting away happily on FB about her excitement for Jordan to meet her her family & with all her dramatic edits on the show, I think she is F1. We will see how she & Jordan are post show but Fleur has just gone way too deep IMO...time will tell as always.

Mike with the 4 girls


Mike: I do not want you to loose focus on the reasons why you are here


Erin: It is a lot harder now that we are only 4 of us. To get this far and not to be choosen would be a really awfull feeling


Fleur: it is very important to take every opportunity and go for it, because 5 minutes can makes the difference of staying or going home

HEA wrote:if I just analyze this intro my thoughts are:

- erin got an awful lot of exposure
- Naz comes second
- Fleur shows in Volcano (as usual) and seen struggling (again)
- lot of group date for Naz
- Lot of single date for erin
- few kisses with several: erin, fleur
- romantic with several: erin, naz, fleur

If I did not know the show at all, I would say Erin is F1, Naz F2, Fleur F3, Gav F4

Fleur storyline is the only one F1 like from that intro.
The lead and the F1 always have a struggle, something to overcome.
And if they are narrating it like that i think it backs up her being F1....at least for now.

And so far for me Erin is having F2 edit (like Lana, Trish, Chantal ...) and Fleur the F1. Naz being the wild card...i can't see where her storyline is going at all or what excuse Jordan can possibly find to eliminate her if she is not F1.

Fleur: not being on a single date at this stage is a huge deal. It means that I will have to make up for it on group date and if not for it at the cocktail party and by then it might be too late


Erin: hey handsome! how are you?
Jordan: I am good! mmm (kissing her)



Jordan: we are going into a little exploration and this is what it is for
Erin: yeah? okay


Jordan ask erin if she has any idea and she makes a batman joke which jordan respond: come on robin, lets go to the bate's cave

Jordan ITM: Erin is looking good as always. And she's got a smile on her face and I just know that I'm going to have a great time (smiling when he talks)


They explore the cave. Love of jokes about movies.
Erin: this reminds me of the goonies
Jordan: looks like lord of the rings, can you do some precious

For the first time I truly saw a connection between them. They were both dorky and laughing.

Erin ITM: The more we're hanging out, we find we have more in common and yes it is nice to know him even more


Jordan voice over: I am very lucky to have meet someone like Erin and be able to spend quality time with her and it is really quite romantic


Erin: oh that was cute (after shutting down the light and on again, he offers her the box)


Erin: oh my gosh they are beautiful, thank you so much


Erin: I love them.I was not expecting this at all. they are very very beautiful. thank you so much


second kiss interrupting him (since he did not select those earrings and it was prod oriented i think he felt a bit uncomfortable)


Erin: I love them. I am shocked
Jordan: haha

djogbenyuie wrote:

HEA wrote:if I just analyze this intro my thoughts are:

- erin got an awful lot of exposure
- Naz comes second
- Fleur shows in Volcano (as usual) and seen struggling (again)
- lot of group date for Naz
- Lot of single date for erin
- few kisses with several: erin, fleur
- romantic with several: erin, naz, fleur

If I did not know the show at all, I would say Erin is F1, Naz F2, Fleur F3, Gav F4

Fleur storyline is the only one F1 like from that intro.
The lead and the F1 always have a struggle, something to overcome.
And if they are narrating it like that i think it backs up her being F1....at least for now.

And so far for me Erin is having F2 edit (like Lana, Trish, Chantal ...) and Fleur the F1. Naz being the wild card...i can't see where her storyline is going at all or what excuse Jordan can possibly find to eliminate her if she is not F1.

that is true. F1 is often seen struggling as well as hometown. F2 generally have a great hometown too.

With this 2nd single date with erin I FINALLY see the connection. But that also is expected for F1. They throw us many girls and then the F1 appears as an evidence right before hometown.

Fleur has the same edits as Storm... struggling, giving up, struggling, giving up. What bother me is that they keep refering to the volcano date which happened eons ago and besides the kiss on last coktail party, there is nothing to rely on especially no second date and no group date (zoo and pizza 1on1 were awkward IMO)

i did not watch the group date or the coktail yet but the rose ceremony. For me I found Jordan not that much emotionally attached with naz as I thought he would be. He gave her the last rose again and showed emotion when gab left which is a surprise since I saw zero connection between them.

So at this point. I could see Naz F3. But I definitely see Erin F1. I would think that after the last coktail he would have reinsure Naz but he did not. So that is not a good sign for me. I have no doubt that naz fell for him but I have now doubts the feelings were reciprocated.

If it is Fleur, then so be it but I would have seen a girl who is more about her own emotions wishing to quit, then changing her mind, then quit again, then changing her mind. This girl is full of insecurities and she looks a bit too needy for me. For a guy we heard over and over that he likes confident women, Fleur does not fit the role IMO

I thought that many things kind of changed from watching that episode ... cards seem to have been reshuffled.

I thought Erin's 2nd SD was boring and pointless. Conversation was lame, awkward Michael Hill advert with the earrings ... Erin was really uncomfortable the whole time. I really don't see her F1. I don't even know why she is still here ...

Fleur - I now clearly see her F1, at least through the new edit she was given in that episode. I thought she really looked desperate at that point. I actually felt bad for her ... She really sees him as the man of her life, she will really get heartbroken if he doesn't pick her. He mentioned that he sees again the Fleur that he had been falling for ... well I don't get it ... nothing happened since the volcano date, plus he didn't even see her the whole week ... but he falls for her again ????

Naz - well her edits are not that good anymore ... the whole drama with Fleur picking Jordan first, the competetiveness with the biking date. I also thought their chat at the CP was really awkward. I thought Jordan was clearly distant with her ... I don't see him into her anymore ... plus the fact he put her throught the bottom 2 again ... doesn't sound very promising for her.

Gab - well I don't get the whole Jordan breakdown at the end ... like if he was actually struggling to send Gab back home. There was nothing going on between the two of them ... seriously is he doing his acting thing the whole time? It's like he is playing a character from the very beginning ....