The Bachelorette 12 - JoJo Fletcher - S/Caps - SM - Sleuthing - Discussion - *Sleuthing - Spoilers*

HEA wrote:

LoveDovez wrote:

Sprite wrote:I also tend to think that at this point, she is more into him than he is into her.

I'm not expecting him to jump her in front of everyone else, but he can look a little more enthusiastic. Sure he is into her when they are alone...and he knows the cameras are on them. It's when he doesn't necessarily think that, that is telling to me. He was not paying that much attention to JoJo, but then maybe they were so raunchy on stage that everything else was beside the point.

I don't know. So far, I just see two people who know how to work the opposite sex and are working each other. Convenient lust at most.

Sprite, I've also noticed him several times checking the camera right before their one on ones and well, other times as well. It's like he doesn't want to be caught off guard and be recorded looking like a dork or something. When she calls him up for the rose his eyes always look so big when he's headed towards her

I can't see it yet if he is that into her. Nothing like Robbie was trying to show her tonight, but then on the other hand, I have to wonder if he's trying to be respectful of what his family sees. I don't know anything about him or his brother so I'm on the fence about him.

One thing I do know is I don't see this smooth operator, this confident self assured man that other's have spoken about, but then I don't see this handsome man when I look at him either.

you both say exactly what I see and think.

The guy is very conscious of the cameras and it is not as if he never met them already. I am sure being former QB, he came across one or two right?

His dad was on a video saying that his son has no problem to date women. I did not watch this video yet but it seems that his dad is extremely proud of his Casanova son. So I do not think his family is an issue at all.

Many times I saw a scared guy in front of Chad but edits did also a great job.

What I saw on the other hand is a guy who just acted (like most guys in the house) like a teenager. I guess each season is different. I remember some season where guys were doing sport together, babyfoot or such. When I see this season, I only see kids, not men with 2/3 of them.

Jordan, for me, looks immature. I have a hard time to see him settle down and be serious, be engaged, married and kids. He just want (maybe) a girlfriend, have fun. He loves to party (confirmed on his IG before and after the show). I do not see him putting his girlfriend before anything else. I saw a guy who, outside the cameras at the theater, just thought of himself.

Jojo should have listened her instinct about him and not beg him saying that he was falling for her the same way she was for him. Men love to hunt and she just gave herself on a platter like probably all the girls do with him. Therefore, he will treat her like them. No way he can be already in love when they had no single date together and only few moment together. They all may have a big crush on her but no more than that. That is plain ridiculous.

Jordan does nothing for me physically. In fact, I do not find him even cute. Body, face and personality are not attractive at all to me.

For me at the theater reflected what she is feeling: she is like a puppy. He whistles and she is running to him with her tongue out.

:Hi!!: Weird, I was sitting here worried about Jordon's family and what they thought, how they felt and they aren't even worried themselves Jordon is the type IMO that hasn't seen a mirror he doesn't like. ; ) Just like Chad doesn't care if he's getting bad press, just as long as somebody is talking about him.

Jordon and Jo both seem to love the camera and esp knowing where it is at all given times. I agree with you about her begging him to open up and say he was falling for her.. It's wayyyyy to early for that esp since they haven't even had a 1 on 1 date yet. She's taken the chase away from him. Hopefully with Robbie and Chase she will be a little more discreet about it or at least I had that hope until pooltablegate. lolol I wonder how Jordon felt watching that scene?

Wow, these guys this season. I just can't!! They act so immature. IMO. They are about as childish as Jo is with worrying if she looks sexy or will come off as looking sexy. I couldn't believe she was worried about looking sexy whens she and Chase were doing yoga. Heck there was plenty of time remaining on the date to make sure that's the way she came off and I sometimes feel like tying her hands down to stop her from fiddling with her hair..Plus now she's adjusting the guys hairdo's

However, in the end I hope she finds whatever it was that made her do the show to begin with and I hope she's happy. If she isn't, maybe she should look into the choices she makes and reevaluate her life a tad bit. She's been known to make poor choices in the past and I don't think she's outgrown that yet. She's at the age where she thinks whatever Jo wants Jo should get and REAL life isn't that way sometime. I do really wish she would stop the straddle thing, tho. It got old on Ben's season....

LoveDovez wrote:


:Hi!!:  Weird, I was sitting here worried about Jordon's family and what they thought, how they felt and they aren't even worried themselves Jordon is the type IMO that hasn't seen a mirror he doesn't like. ; ) Just like Chad doesn't care if he's getting bad press, just as long as somebody is talking about him.

Jordon and Jo both seem to love the camera and esp knowing where it is at all given times. I agree with you about her begging him to open up and say he was falling for her.. It's wayyyyy to early for that esp since they haven't even had a 1 on 1 date yet. She's taken the chase away from him. Hopefully with Robbie and Chase she will be a little more discreet about it or at least I had that hope until pooltablegate. lolol I wonder how Jordon felt watching that scene?

Wow, these guys this season. I just can't!!  They act so immature. IMO.  They are about as childish as Jo is with worrying if she looks sexy or will come off as looking sexy. I couldn't believe she was worried about looking sexy whens she and Chase were doing yoga. Heck  there was plenty of time remaining on the date to make sure that's the way she came off and I sometimes feel like tying her hands down to stop her from fiddling with her hair..Plus now she's adjusting the guys hairdo's  

However, in the end I hope she finds whatever it was that made her do the show to begin with and I hope she's happy. If she isn't, maybe she should look into the choices she makes and reevaluate her life a tad bit. She's been known to make poor choices in the past and I don't think she's outgrown that yet. She's at the age where she thinks whatever Jo wants Jo should get and REAL life isn't that way sometime. I do really wish she would stop the straddle thing, tho. It got old on Ben's season....

She sure loves hair!

Regarding the straddle thing... a lot of men love that. They feel powerful big bad men with a chick on their laps. Their prey are eating on their laps and such... again a hunter/prey thing IMO

Next episode synopsis is out:

http://www.disneyabcpress.com/abc/shows/the-bachelorette/press-releases/

julychild wrote:Next episode synopsis is out:

http://www.disneyabcpress.com/abc/shows/the-bachelorette/press-releases/

Sorry if this is the wrong place to post this....but I've just read the synopsis. What's up with JoJo always cancelling the cocktail parties?

She is not the one canceling it, production does that. Drama. It throws the cast off balance. It's done every season a couple times.

luvstx wrote:

julychild wrote:Next episode synopsis is out:

http://www.disneyabcpress.com/abc/shows/the-bachelorette/press-releases/

Sorry if this is the wrong place to post this....but I've just read the synopsis.  What's up with JoJo always cancelling the cocktail parties?

So she does address the rumors about Jordon per the press release????

can someone pretty please copy and past the synopsis? Canada cannot open some of the stuff on their site
thank you so much

HEA wrote:can someone pretty please copy and past the synopsis? Canada cannot open some of the stuff on their site
thank you so much

Jojo and the Bachelors Move on With Their Pursuit of Love, on ABC’s ‘The Bachelorette,’ Monday, June 20
JOJO AND THE BACHELORS MOVE ON WITH THEIR PURSUIT OF LOVE,
EVEN AS CHAD REAPPEARS TO CONFRONT THE MEN, ON ‘THE BACHELORETTE,’
MONDAY, JUNE 20, ON ABC

Punta Del Este, Uruguay, Is the Backdrop for the Group’s First International Foray Into Romance

“Episode 1205” – Just as the remaining 13 men are celebrating Chad’s departure after the dreaded two-on-one date, the bachelor that viewers love to hate, makes a surprise return to the house for another combative confrontation. When the dust settles after the rose ceremony, two more men are sent home while the others prepare for their first international adventure to the exciting South American city of Punta Del Este, Uruguay. JoJo’s one-on-one date with one of the charming bachelors involves a yacht and pods of adorable seals, but the man must end up defending himself against unflattering gossip. JoJo is also the target of tabloid reports that she is on the show for the “wrong reasons” and must argue her case to the men, but will they believe her? Finally, there’s a heart-stopping one-on-one date – for more than one reason. However, JoJo interjects more drama into the week by cancelling the cocktail party, on “The Bachelorette,” MONDAY, JUNE 20 (8:00-10:01 p.m. EDT), on the ABC Television Network.

Chad may have finally left, but the competition between the guys who already have roses and those who don’t ramps up. Two unfortunate men do not make it through the rose ceremony. For the remaining 11 bachelors, it’s on to Uruguay. One attractive guy boards a luxury yacht with JoJo and the two get to dive into choppy waters with hundreds of delightful seals. Unfortunately, the lovely day is spoiled, as JoJo must confront the man about rumors she has heard about his past girlfriends. Can she trust this guy?

However, JoJo must tackle her own slur in the media, as she reads a shocking story calling into question her character. Is she able to convince the men that the accusations are wrong and that she really is here for love, or does this doom some of her relationships?

The next day, JoJo meets nine excited bachelors on the sand dunes of Uruguay for a fun day of sand surfing. But the exhilarating outing is cut short by a torrential rainstorm. One glum guy complains to JoJo about his growing feelings of jealousy. How does that affect his future prospects with his potential soul mate?

One of the love-struck men and JoJo dive into the local culture on their one-on-one date; however, the bachelor makes a heart-pounding suggestion for what they should do next. Will the Bachelorette follow his recommendation? And what happens later when the man makes a stunning confession?

No cocktail hour this week means no more alone time with JoJo before the rose ceremony. The decisions get tougher and weigh heavier on her, but three men leave with one distraught bachelor in tears. JoJo is moving closer to finding the love of her life as the group readies to move on to the vibrant, cosmopolitan capitol of Argentina: Buenos Aires.

The 14 remaining men are:
Alex, 26, a U.S. Marine from Oceanside, CA
Chad, 28, a luxury real estate agent from Tulsa, OK
Chase, 27, a medical sale representative from Highlands Ranch, CO
Daniel, 31, a Canadian from Vancouver, B.C., Canada
Derek, 29, a commercial banker from Ft. Lauderdale, FL
Evan, 33, an erectile dysfunction specialist from Nashville, TN
Grant, 28, a firefighter from San Francisco, CA
James F., 34, a boxing club owner from Nashville, TN
James Taylor, 29, a singer-songwriter from Katy, TX
Jordan, 27, a former pro quarterback, Chico, CA
Luke, 31, a war veteran from Burnet, TX
Robert “Robby,” 27, a former competitive swimmer from Jacksonville, FL
Vincent “Vinny,” 28, a barber from Delray Beach, FL
Wells, 31, a radio DJ from Nashville
http://www.disneyabcpress.com/abc/shows/the-bachelorette/press-releases/

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Ladybug82 wrote:Sure, I guess it's possible she covers other things while talking to the guys, but you can see she has the magazine with her in the SC's with the guys.  So, I tend to think that's what she's upset about, why she goes to see the guys and what they talk about.

Note Jojo's on the dude in the blue's right:


And note the rolled up magazine visible around the area of the dude in blue's hands, where Jo would be standing:


My SCs from SC No Discussion Thread

I think the vase was an item that traveled with them.  It appears several times.  What is it about the vase your focused on / concerned with?

About the vase, it only has appeared with the F4 so far and only with a certain background/photo and same hotel room so feel that it will of happened before HTD's as it has been with Luke too. Again, all with the same background

^^

are we talking about this vase and background? this is taken on episode 1

I am thinking it is one room in LA mansion. So IMO, this is a false road.


my scap from recorded episode - ep 1

HEA wrote:^^

are we talking about this vase and background? this is taken on episode 1

I am thinking it is one room in LA mansion. So IMO, this is a false road.


my scap from recorded episode - ep 1

If you look at the eye, it is bruised IMO and that happens in epi 4 football game so thinking that that scene/background happens before F6 so likely in Uruguay. IMO of course