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Post by Katiebelle Sun May 29, 2016 5:32 am

Ok - so I think I've found the location of JoJo and Robby's cliff jump.

Litta123's s/cap below

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https://www.bachandbachettefans.net/t3504-the-bachelorette-season-12-jojo-fletcher-no-spoilers-scaps-media-sleuthing-no-discussion

I found these photos that were taken at Punta Ballena which is very near Casapueblo.

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http://www.gettyimages.co.nz/detail/photo/uruguay-maldonado-punta-ballena-man-jumping-high-res-stock-photography/153352549

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So I searched up Punta Ballena and found their tourist website and on the info page I found this

A small cliff on the Portezuelo side known as "el salto" (the jump) provides an excellent area for diving.

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http://www.puntaweb.com/cgi-bin/guia/zona.pl?url=0203000000&version=i

So it looks as though both Jordan and Robby had their single dates in Uruguay.


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Post by nd4reality Sun May 29, 2016 8:25 am

That jumping cliff is a match, good job.
I'm still not 100% on that skyline but perhaps it'd just  me.

I wonder the  the temps were for these water activities? Brrr.


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Post by veg_out Sun May 29, 2016 9:11 am

@Katiebelle, way to go with the Uruguay port! I think that you might be correct. Thanks for entertaining my Miami detour.

To unspoiled posters: If that's the case, and we figured out that Uruguay isn't until episode 5, is this his first date or his second? If we also have him on a one-on-one in Argentina, then he would have dates in episode 5 then episode 7 (I'm guessing that the Argentina date is episode 7 since an episode 5 and then episode 6 1:1 would be overkill), like Josh M did. His "I'm falling in love with you" to Jo in the table cap would fit with a pre-HTD admission, like Chris S and Des.

ETA: If we can place the leather jacket conversation where she's fixing his hair, then we probably know that Jordan is with her through HTDs.

Hmm.
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Post by nd4reality Sun May 29, 2016 9:26 am

Wait, is argentina episode 6 or 7?  I thought argentia was episode 6.

Which makes it that jordan had back to back 1on1 dates which never happens.


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Post by veg_out Sun May 29, 2016 9:43 am

nd4reality wrote:Wait, is argentina episode 6 or 7?  I thought argentia was episode 6.

Which makes it that jordan had back to back 1on1 dates which never happens.

I'm guessing that they're in Argentina 6 and 7 in order for the timeline to make sense. I agree with you as noted in my post that Jordan having back-to-back 1:1s is uncommon. I remember 1:1's in episode 5 and then 7 (Josh, maybe Catherine). Plus, we have the F4-F3 rose ceremony (from @AllAboutLove's post in Argentina), so they're in Argentina for two episodes, I'm guessing, or we have something off.

We'll figure it out--that's the fun of this section! The puzzle unpacks slowly.
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Post by Litta123 Sun May 29, 2016 10:19 am

I concur with you, veg_out. I'm inclined to think two episodes in Argentina, but I guess it could be two in Uruguay. No matter what, I can't see flying back to the States from SA (unless they needed a plane connection, but wow, how exhausting!!).

The number of people we've confirmed in Uruguay, indicates Episode 5 takes place there. @AllAboutLove gave a nice summary of it somewhere (sorry, I've looked around and can't fine it. There were lot's of contributors to coming up with who's in Uruguay, with big help from @Lost17 counting heads on the sand truck). I believe there were 11 guys in total (9 on truck and so 2 on 1-1s), which corresponds to typical Epi 5 numbers.


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Post by kimberlyg Sun May 29, 2016 10:28 am

Argentina could either be the episode right before HTDs or the one before that based on the three roses.  But if Jordan has a one-on-one in episode 5 in Uruguay, he probably doesn't have one in the next episode, so Argentina would then more likely be in the episode before HTDs.

Unless they end up doing two weeks in Argentina.  There seem to be a lot of caps that come from there.  

Also good work on the Pittsburgh/Pennsylvania stuff finds!

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Post by AllAboutLove Sun May 29, 2016 2:27 pm

Great match Katie! yes Same rock so definitely Robby in Uruguay for a date.


So based on Robby in Uruguay, thinking the following based on timeline @Litta123 posted here for Episode 5:

GD - 9 men (sleuthed by @Lost17 here) on sand dunes (sleuthed by @Katiebelle here) Robby & Jordan missing (so 11 men total)
1on1 - Robby in Uruguay jumping in water (sleuthed by @Katiebelle here)
1on1 - Jordan since not on GD (speculated/sleuthed by @Katiebelle here)

Maybe we can figure out in Jordan's thread which s/caps of his may be his 1on1 Uruguay date?  :detective


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Nice recap @AllAboutLove and thanks for that! Such great work going on in here with everyone contributing something! THE BACHELORETTE - SEASON 12 - JOJO FLETCHER - **NO SPOILERS** -  SCaps - *SLEUTHING* DISCUSSION - Page 30 1710264613


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Post by rhondam Sun May 29, 2016 5:11 pm

I believe I can confirm the resort from this sc of umngirl's (pg 29 this thread) of the plane used in date in Litta's sc below. 
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The sc with plane is the back of the Lafayette Chateau I believe  which is part of the Nemacolin Resort in Farmington, PA. This is the location of the cocktail party where Jordan(?) is kissing JoJo against the wall below. 
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I think Jordan (?) and JoJo are in Nemacolin Tea Room and the guys are on the other side of the wall in the Lobby Bar as shown in the sc of part of the resort map. The carpet and drapes appear to be the same as well as the chairs in the Lobby Bar. 
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I believe the sc by the fire is in Lafayette Gardens off of the tea room because JoJo appears to be wearing the same dress as in sc above. 
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I think this resort and/or surrounding area are the locations of the dates like Alex's horse/cabin , Luke's hot tub/robes and maybe even Chase's mountain sc if that is not Colorado. I'll try to match up other sc's to other buildings at the resort tonight but have to run out now. If someone else has time to compare that would be great too.
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Post by Litta123 Sun May 29, 2016 5:56 pm

^^Great work, Rhonda!

Well, well, well...I think I've got something juicy! I went back to the preview to see if I could get better caps of the shoreline on Jordan & JoJo's boat date (more on that later). I decided to go through the whole thing to see if I missed something. Yep, I sure did. (ETA: All my scs in this post)

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Initially when I took this cap, I thought it was a distraught JoJo...ala Ashley Hebert who we saw crying and moping in bed after Bentley left (or Jillian because Ed). I didn't think anything of it...other than maybe a guy leaves. Um, no...not moping, not crying. I don't think JoJo pulls a Kaitlyn...at least to take it as far, but perhaps this is what instigated her crying to the boys in what appears to be a morning scene in a hotel. Much to sleuth...I know @Katiebelle sluethed the location of the hotel here (scroll down the page). Then again, JoJo's crying to the boys might be something else because I think there are still too many guys in the morning scene for it to be in episode 7. Not sure at the moment...

So, WHO IS HE????? I'm thinking Robby because of the hairline. Anyway, it's got to be one of the guys who made it to Buenos Aires.

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Oh JoJo, whhyyyyyyy????


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Post by Litta123 Sun May 29, 2016 5:58 pm

^^Is that why we see Robby running down that hall in his underwear coming out of that room? :thud


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