The Bachelor 20 - Ben Higgins - ATFR - *Sleuthing - Spoilers* #3

sosleepy wrote:

Alanna wrote:It's just for fun, why people root for sports or horses or whatever else. I don't think the Yankees are sending anyone a Mercedes either.

This is how I view it too. All in good fun. I got extremely invested in 2 past couples that ended up breaking up years ago. I'm now guarded, but that doesn't stop me from rooting for Lauren and Ben and hoping the best for them. If they break up, it affects my life none, I'll just maybe be a tad disappointed for a day or two. Similar to when my favorite football team (Packers, duh) get knocked out of the playoffs or whatever.

Alanna wrote:It's just for fun, why people root for sports or horses or whatever else. I don't think the Yankees are sending anyone a Mercedes either.

relaxing wrote:

I agree.  All the media jokes about how the couples never last seem outdated to me.  I go in thinking 50-50 chance for any of them now.  I kind of consider the show split into 2 eras.  The old era seems mostly forgotten by TPTB in many ways, is hardly referenced and so many newer fans probably know nothing about those early seasons.  The recycling, it really works, IMO.  Plus now you can keep up with your favs on social media and they might be back in the summer or as a returnee even if not picked as next lead.  It's such a great business model for ratings success, IMO and it's also lead to a lot more success in the final couples. I tend to think it's because usually they are picking leads that the audience really likes who are regular type people, who of course probably have fame and money ambitions out of this, but also may actually be glad if they do meet someone great that they might never get a shot with in real life.  Not all of them, but many JMO.

Anyway, if Deanna is the first of the new era of recycling leads and having both Bachelor and Bachelorette seasons then by my count there have been  4 marriages (including Jason and Molly) and 3 couples who moved in together and gave it a real life try for a year or so (I count those as successes personally).  Then you have about the same number of train-wrecks or no go's. All considered with the crazy situation this show is, I think that's pretty good.  I find there are far more real love connections now, IMO, even if the Bachelorettes are still waayyy better at it than the guys.  Maybe Ben can help tip the scale on that stat.

ETA - sosleepy just saw your batting .500 comment, which I kind of borrowed without quoting you - so  to your great post too.

nd4reality wrote:There are so many couples that have got together because of the show and the connections they formed with other crew and cast members that that number is only going to grow in coming years.

Jesse C and Ann, Ty and Elizabeth, Chris and Peyton, DeAnna and Steven, Drew and Amy (not married though). Pretty sure there are others that can thank having appeared on the franchise for finding their loves.

Alanna wrote:It's just for fun, why people root for sports or horses or whatever else. I don't think the Yankees are sending anyone a Mercedes either.

sosleepy wrote: *snipped

So- IF BenLo and Kaitlyn/Shawn work out, they'd be 7/16 for marriages. Which is almost 50%. They'd also be 10/16 for couples that lasted at least a year and gave it a genuine go. 11/16 if you count Andi/Josh, which to me is on the bubble of fake and real. That's really not bad. Good job, show. Much better stats than the early days when these couples were all dunzo by the time ATFR aired or within a month or so after.

sosleepy wrote:

nd4reality wrote:There are so many couples that have got together because of the show and the connections they formed with other crew and cast members that that number is only going to grow in coming years.

Jesse C and Ann, Ty and Elizabeth, Chris and Peyton, DeAnna and Steven, Drew and Amy (not married though). Pretty sure there are others that can thank having appeared on the franchise for finding their loves.

Yep. Again, I credit flipping back and forth between the Bach and the 'Ette with a side of BP or BIP. Throw a bunch of hot people together, and some are bound to get relationships out of it.

provenceguy wrote:Is this the right place to discuss this?:

"I wonder if Ben and Lauren have heard/read the new stories about Jojo getting back together with her boyfriend while the Bach was airing?"

albean99 wrote:

sosleepy wrote: *snipped

So- IF BenLo and Kaitlyn/Shawn work out, they'd be 7/16 for marriages. Which is almost 50%. They'd also be 10/16 for couples that lasted at least a year and gave it a genuine go. 11/16 if you count Andi/Josh, which to me is on the bubble of fake and real. That's really not bad. Good job, show. Much better stats than the early days when these couples were all dunzo by the time ATFR aired or within a month or so after.

There were some longer lasting relationships early on. I didn't watch the 1st 2 seasons but Andrew & Jen lived together and broke up after 7 months; Byron & Mary for 5 years, Charlie & Sarah on & off for 2-3 yrs; and Meredith & Ian lived together for 1 yr. Andy & Tessa only lasted 3 months. The train wreck seasons were: Bob, Jesse, Lorenzo, Travis, & Jen.