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Post by Justafan2 Tue Mar 15, 2016 11:44 am

Mommyof1 wrote:
mslat92 wrote:I honestly don't see a lasting future for Ben and Lauren.

You are not alone.  I watched the Jimmy Kimmel interview and they revealed that they have already been having "disagreements." Sounds eerily similar to Whitney and Chris.  Time will tell.

Normal relationships have disagreements though. IMO it means they have a very open line of communication and feel ok with letting the other person know when they are upset about something.

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Post by NCGalBecca Tue Mar 15, 2016 11:44 am

mindless wrote:I don't know. "My feelings for you are stronger than anything I've ever felt before" and "You're my best friend" (or something along those lines) don't exactly spell "goodbye" to me.

This..he's rather clueless. Why can't he take a little ownership over his ILY diarrhea? It would come across so much better. Whoever wrote those talking points for him that he repeated ad nauseam  missed the mark.

I find interview Lauren so much different than TB Lauren. The change is remarkable.

Between the ex Chad and Ben, I feel JoJo was over being dumped on at the end. She may have been a little hopeful but appeared sadly realistic about what was about to happen. No need to have a meltdown as it wasn't changing anything and besides, he cries enough for both of them.


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Post by Cocoasneeze Tue Mar 15, 2016 11:49 am

Beach Lover wrote:To me, Ben appears to want to be done with the show and to just focus on them. That's why I think this may actually last.  If they stay fairly low key in Denver doing just a few of the obligatory appearances here and there, I will feel much more confident in their chances.  

As far as the PDA (or lack of it), some people are just more affectionate and touchy feely than others. But what struck me was the major contrast with Ben.  He seems very different with Lauren now than he did on the show.  He couldn't resist touching or kissing her (and JoJo) and now watching him live I feel he seems a little detached too. It's the inconsistency that bothers me. I guess I just expected to see him more into her than her into him.

IMO the difference is, that they now can be as affectionate as they want away from the prying eye. They sleep together, wake up together, share their time together. When we see them now, they're giving interviews. IMO he's still very affectionate (as is she) but respectfully so.
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Post by harts05 Tue Mar 15, 2016 11:56 am

Fingersandtoes wrote:
Beach Lover wrote:To me, Ben appears to want to be done with the show and to just focus on them. That's why I think this may actually last.  If they stay fairly low key in Denver doing just a few of the obligatory appearances here and there, I will feel much more confident in their chances.  

As far as the PDA (or lack of it), some people are just more affectionate and touchy feely than others. But what struck me was the major contrast with Ben.  He seems very different with Lauren now than he did on the show.  He couldn't resist touching or kissing her (and JoJo) and now watching him live I feel he seems a little detached too. It's the inconsistency that bothers me. I guess I just expected to see him more into her than her into him.

IMO the difference is, that they now can be as affectionate as they want away from the prying eye. They sleep together, wake up together, share their time together. When we see them now, they're giving interviews. IMO he's still very affectionate (as is she) but respectfully so.

^^^agree 100%  they seem so comfortable with each other and you can definitely tell that they are together a lot.  I didn't see anything wrong with their body language.  They are affectionate, yet not all over each other...which seems SO much more real and normal than past contestants who you could tell were forcing it.  I will eat my words if they don't make it!  :bigsmile: plus I have never seen such an awesome support system in both of their families...EVER! and I have been watching this show since the very beginning.


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Post by soccermom333 Tue Mar 15, 2016 11:56 am

Just watched the Kelly and Michael interview. He did say something that was a little weird. Michael asked about falling in love with JoJo too and he said he "thinks" it all worked out because he falls in love more everyday. Just the way he phrased it was weird. They both look tired to me so might have to give them a pass. Not sure she makes it to Denver, but that is probably their best chance of staying together.
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Post by aviej Tue Mar 15, 2016 12:01 pm

NCGalBecca wrote:
mindless wrote:I don't know. "My feelings for you are stronger than anything I've ever felt before" and "You're my best friend" (or something along those lines) don't exactly spell "goodbye" to me.

This..he's rather clueless. Why can't he take a little ownership over his ILY diarrhea? It would come across so much better. Whoever wrote those talking points for him that he repeated ad nauseam  missed the mark.

I find interview Lauren so much different than TB Lauren. The change is remarkable.

Between the ex Chad and Ben, I feel JoJo was over being dumped on at the end. She may have been a little hopeful but appeared sadly realistic about what was about to happen. No need to have a meltdown as it wasn't changing anything and besides, he cries enough for both of them.

As per the bolded, I agree. It was a huge contrast to the Lauren from the show. I never thought the Lauren from the show would such a plunging neckline and a high cut slit in dress for the Jimmy Kimmel show. Neither did I think that she could talk so much. It's interesting though that only now (even while on camera) that we are seeing a huge difference in her personality. I don't recall when last I have seen an F1 have such a remarkable change post-show, IMO. So I'm left a bit confused as to who Lauren is, TBH.
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Post by sosleepy Tue Mar 15, 2016 12:05 pm

Huh? I see the same Lauren that I saw on the show. She pretty much narrated her and Ben's entire journey. You could tell she was well spoken on the show based on her ITM's. She came across as reserved, yet calm and confident on the show, and IMO, that is also how she is coming across in interviews.
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Post by bleuberry Tue Mar 15, 2016 12:06 pm

Well we usually get a better idea of who these people are post show. Their edited personas are so one dimensional and don't allow for much variety.

I like what we saw of them last night. It's hard to predict their longevity solely based on the one night. People thought Andi and Josh were solid, and that some of the now success stories were for sure unhappy and uncomfortable with each other on ATFR.

They have a few things going for them that I personally love: they aren't big on SM. Aren't staying in LA. Aren't doing DWTS. And the families seem to be backing them. As the youngest couple to come out of this show, I think theyre handling everything well all things considered.


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Post by Ariela Tue Mar 15, 2016 12:07 pm

aviej wrote:
NCGalBecca wrote:
mindless wrote:I don't know. "My feelings for you are stronger than anything I've ever felt before" and "You're my best friend" (or something along those lines) don't exactly spell "goodbye" to me.

This..he's rather clueless. Why can't he take a little ownership over his ILY diarrhea? It would come across so much better. Whoever wrote those talking points for him that he repeated ad nauseam  missed the mark.

I find interview Lauren so much different than TB Lauren. The change is remarkable.

Between the ex Chad and Ben, I feel JoJo was over being dumped on at the end. She may have been a little hopeful but appeared sadly realistic about what was about to happen. No need to have a meltdown as it wasn't changing anything and besides, he cries enough for both of them.

As per the bolded, I agree. It was a huge contrast to the Lauren from the show. I never thought the Lauren from the show would such a plunging neckline and a high cut slit in dress for the Jimmy Kimmel show. Neither did I think that she could talk so much. It's interesting though that only now (even while on camera) that we are seeing a huge difference in her personality. I don't recall when last I have seen an F1 have such a remarkable change post-show, IMO. So I'm left a bit confused as to who Lauren is, TBH.

Ben and Lauren will NOT last. I could see it during the show. It's all infatuation. He had a better connection with JoJo, but I'm sure once he thought about her brothers and the fact that her business is in Texas, he chose Lauren. I give them a few more months...for the lust to wear off. But I wish them well.
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Post by benandlaurenb4ever Tue Mar 15, 2016 12:11 pm

I honestly believe that Ben and Lauren are gonna be like Trista and Ryan.
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Post by Mommyof2 Tue Mar 15, 2016 12:12 pm

soccermom333 wrote:Just watched the Kelly and Michael interview.  He did say something that was a little weird.  Michael asked about falling in love with JoJo too and he said he "thinks" it all worked out because he falls in love more everyday.  Just the way he phrased it was weird. They both look tired to me so might have to give them a pass.  Not sure she makes it to Denver, but that is probably their best chance of staying together.  

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Post by Guest Tue Mar 15, 2016 12:13 pm

Mommyof1 wrote:
mslat92 wrote:I honestly don't see a lasting future for Ben and Lauren.

You are not alone.  I watched the Jimmy Kimmel interview and they revealed that they have already been having "disagreements." Sounds eerily similar to Whitney and Chris.  Time will tell.

I actually watched JK before the episode, and its very clear to me that, they probably don't really like each other that much as they thought they would.

Who would talk about being bothered by the heavy breathe of your fiance? It's not cute at all, it almost sounds like a dig at Ben. And Ben mentioned Lauren sleeps till late that to me isn't a good sign too, it's about compatibility in life. He's an early morning healthy guy, he can't have a party wife (I really do see her as a party girl who drinks often).

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