The Bachelor 20 - Ben Higgins - MTP -LCD - FRC - *Sleuthing - Spoilers*

Maybe I need to open up a bar with free drinks for all of us on Monday!!! LOL!!

Yeah, my best guess with that one is that Ben and/or Mama Higgins through a hissy to the higher ups and won somehow. If it's edited into the actual show though, I'm sure it's waaaay too late to take it out. So it is strange.

mindless wrote:Seems the Bachelor Twitter account deleted the clip of Ben's mom offering her opinion. It's also unavailable in the US Weekly article it was linked to. I wonder why.

Very odd, but it's still on the bachelor site and hulu, so I don't know. Maybe they just haven't gotten to those yet. Would Ben have that much pull? If so, he should of used it before now.

Tiggerlgh wrote:

Carolinagirl1864 wrote:I think Chris Harrison had in his blog that HE would have a few surprises up his sleeve...something like that...is that the same surprise we are talking about and RS is trying to find out about???

RS mentioned rumors not a surprise unless I missed something. I think it's two different things.  I am sure the surprise won't be much but will get people to watch ATFR.

It's not clear whether the surprise has anything to do with RS "rumors" that are circling. Could not be related at all, or might be. But there is a clip that says "Ben's live Surprise" on the ATFR
https://www.tvguide.com/news/this-the-bachelor-finale-promo-will-stress-you-out/

Duke702 wrote:

Tiggerlgh wrote:

Carolinagirl1864 wrote:I think Chris Harrison had in his blog that HE would have a few surprises up his sleeve...something like that...is that the same surprise we are talking about and RS is trying to find out about???

RS mentioned rumors not a surprise unless I missed something. I think it's two different things.  I am sure the surprise won't be much but will get people to watch ATFR.

It's not clear whether the surprise has anything to do with RS "rumors" that are circling. Could not be related at all, or might be. But there is a clip that says "Ben's live Surprise" on the ATFR
https://www.tvguide.com/news/this-the-bachelor-finale-promo-will-stress-you-out/

IMO I don't think it has anything to do with RS rumors.

This is probably a stupid question (this is my first time watching the bachelor) but is AFTR after the episode or a week after?

bellehuntley wrote:This is probably a stupid question (this is my first time watching the bachelor) but is AFTR after the episode or a week after?

Right after the episode

Okay thank you! That's so good, I thought that we had to wait another week to see Ben and Lauren together!

bellehuntley wrote:This is probably a stupid question (this is my first time watching the bachelor) but is AFTR after the episode or a week after?

It's the 2 hours show and 1 hour ATFR. So 3 hours all together.

Kashathediva wrote:Maybe Ben's mom expressed displeasure to someone high up and that person was able to pull some strings.

Totally could be it...very plausible. Just think about it- if you were she and had this future daughter-in-law that you probably now love listening to you say that you would pick someone else for your son...uh oh. My heart aches for the Higgins and future Higgins(hopefully???) right now.

Kashathediva wrote:Maybe Ben's mom expressed displeasure to someone high up and that person was able to pull some strings.

You really think that could be it? I guess I'm shocked that tptb would give whether the Higgins are displeased. Don't they own them at this point?

avacaroline wrote:

Kashathediva wrote:Maybe Ben's mom expressed displeasure to someone high up and that person was able to pull some strings.

You really think that could be it? I guess I'm shocked that tptb would give     whether the Higgins are displeased.  Don't they own them at this point?  

If they wanted Ben and Lauren's families to co-operate and make TPTB look good, I could see that! Ben and Lauren have signed contract, but their family and friends don't , I'm sure - at least not most of them.