Bachelor New Zealand - Jordan Mauger - Season 2 - Episode Discussion - *Sleuthing* - *Spoilers*

AllAboutLove wrote:

Katiebelle wrote:What on earth is "shaka brah"!

I don't know but Shari needs to leave. She's there for the free ride, imo.

IA - another one that is not mature enough for him.

Too much smooching focused, imo, seems to counteract Jordan wanting to have deeper conversations and connections (but that is more edit than him since the girls he kisses he seems to really like so it is more the edit focus).

With Storm - single date already, mostly physical connection shown so far.
With Rebecca - single date already, mostly conversational/emotional connection shown so far.

With Fleur - next ep single date, mostly conversational connection shown and other girls talking about her having the most chemistry with Jordan so maybe both emotional and physical shown for her?

Katiebelle wrote:

AllAboutLove wrote:

Katiebelle wrote:

Not seeing it - she's not mature enough for him

I don't see it either. IA, too immature and not ready. I will add Ceri to that list too. I think they're too young for him (regardless of age). He's 32, 33? Makes me wonder if Storm's age will be a factor? She's 24? I see that there's the physical connection but I don't know if they are on the same wavelength outside of that yet?

I think maturity is variable over all ages. Some 24 year olds are more worldly and mature than some naive clueless 35 year olds.

I totally agree. With Storm I am not sure though yet... I think Jordan really likes Storm and seemed to be wanting to talk more serious with her as well so perhaps that will come (and likely will have to if she is F1).

I am on the fence with Storm based on edit at the moment (so not based on her personality) - this episode seemed to have the girls talking a bit negatively about her and her physical connection whereas with Fleur the girls seem to talk positively about her and her edit is positive in contrast.

I don't know something is off with Storm's edit and the similarities to Dani's edit emphasize that for me at the moment. Not sure...

AllAboutLove wrote:Too much smooching focused, imo, seems to counteract Jordan wanting to have deeper conversations and connections (but that is more edit than him since the girls he kisses he seems to really like so it is more the edit focus).

With Storm - single date already, mostly physical connection shown so far.
With Rebecca - single date already, mostly conversational/emotional connection shown so far.

With Fleur - next ep single date, mostly conversational connection shown and other girls talking about her having the most chemistry with Jordan so maybe both emotional and physical shown for her?

If he has the most chemistry with Fleur why haven't they shown it in the edit? She's been almost more of a confidante for the last 7 episodes. I'm looking forward to their single date to see how they connect on a romantic level.

I also don't think he has actually kissed that many girls. Only Storm and Rebecca with any passion. That's a pretty low rate for 7 episodes!

AllAboutLove wrote:

Katiebelle wrote:

AllAboutLove wrote:
I don't see it either. IA, too immature and not ready. I will add Ceri to that list too. I think they're too young for him (regardless of age). He's 32, 33? Makes me wonder if Storm's age will be a factor? She's 24? I see that there's the physical connection but I don't know if they are on the same wavelength outside of that yet?

I think maturity is variable over all ages. Some 24 year olds are more worldly and mature than some naive clueless 35 year olds.

I totally agree. With Storm I am not sure though yet... I think Jordan really likes  Storm and seemed to be wanting to talk more serious with her as well so perhaps that will come (and likely will have to if she is F1).

I am on the fence with Storm based on edit at the moment (so not based on her personality) - this episode seemed to have the girls talking a bit negatively about her and her physical connection whereas with Fleur the girls seem to talk positively about her and her edit is positive in contrast.

I don't know something is off with Storm's edit and the similarities to Dani's edit emphasize that for me at the moment. Not sure...

Yes - the edit is weird. And the SM too. It's like they are throwing Storm at us with all the videos, photos and posts. Maybe to hide the F1 - Rebecca or Fleur.

Katiebelle wrote:

AllAboutLove wrote:Too much smooching focused, imo, seems to counteract Jordan wanting to have deeper conversations and connections (but that is more edit than him since the girls he kisses he seems to really like so it is more the edit focus).

With Storm - single date already, mostly physical connection shown so far.
With Rebecca - single date already, mostly conversational/emotional connection shown so far.
With Fleur - next ep single date, mostly conversational connection shown and other girls talking about her having the most chemistry with Jordan so maybe both emotional and physical shown for her?

If he has the most chemistry with Fleur why haven't they shown it in the edit? She's been almost more of a confidante for the last 7 episodes. I'm looking forward to their single date to see how they connect on a romantic level.

I also don't think he has actually kissed that many girls. Only Storm and Rebecca with any passion. That's a pretty low rate for 7 episodes!

IA he hasn't kissed many girls and they're pretty chaste overall... the edit seems to want to focus on that though probably to show the connections he does have since the kisses shown seem like frontrunners?

Regarding Fleur, I am wondering if chemistry is not shown because if it was shown then it would be too obvious? (then again they haven't kissed yet so maybe hard to be shown so maybe something the girls sense/feel or see?). Edit-wise, perhaps also there'd be no build up to her single date? So in a way the girls have been prepping the audience by saying almost every episode that Jordan has the most chemistry with Fleur and then have to wait for her single date to see the chemistry? So in that way it is laying a foundation for something between J&F that gets solidified on their first single date?

So far leading up to her SD, Fleur already received a GD rose and gets a rose either first at RC or one of the first girls at RC so she has a lot of positive reinforcement edit wise. I think it's also a positive thing that the girls are saying most chemistry with Jordan and Fleur especially if it is finally revealed/seen on her SD (so similar in a way to Matilda's 2nd date when they finally kissed). Even more positive, imo, that there's been times shown with Fleur where deeper conversations are held, including this episode so it seems like the emotional connection is established before the physical - the opposite seems to be the case with Storm based on edit...

ETA: That they chose to leave it in the edit and repeatedly show the girls saying Fleur has the strongest chemistry/connection with Jordan makes me think they did that for a reason. If it doesn't serve Fleur's story arc then they would leave that on the cutting floor I'd think?

Yes - if you look closely at the edit Fleur has had a lot of positive screen time but do you think it is only people like us, the ones that are really looking at the edit for clues, that will see it? My daughter and most of my friends have picked Storm and Rebecca as F1 and that is just based on the kissing. They aren't, like most viewers, looking that closely at the positive or negative edit of each girl.

And yes - I think that Storm could end up the devastated F2.

Katiebelle wrote:Yes - if you look closely at the edit Fleur has had a lot of positive screen time but do you think it is only people like us, the ones that are really looking at the edit for clues, that will see it? My daughter and most of my friends have picked Storm and Rebecca as F1 and that is just based on the kissing. They aren't, like most viewers, looking that closely at the positive or negative edit of each girl.

And yes - I think that Storm could end up the devastated F2.

Great point and I definitely agree that is seen when looked more closely, especially since both Rebecca and Storm have had single dates so Fleur hasn't got as much camera time.

After Fleur's single date it will be interesting if audiences start seeing Fleur as a possible F1? .... especially if there is kissing?

I didn't get to watch Ceri's date in this episode but if she didn't have a kiss then I think your daughter and friends may be picking up that the edit is showing who the frontrunners are by whom Jordan kisses?

So far the show seems to be highlighting who Jordan does have a physical connection with (in addition to emotional) so it may be similar in a way to Art's season edit-wise and after seeing all the girls kissed comparing the positive and negative edit of each girl once they all have had single dates/a kiss?

Katiebelle wrote:Yes - if you look closely at the edit Fleur has had a lot of positive screen time but do you think it is only people like us, the ones that are really looking at the edit for clues, that will see it? My daughter and most of my friends have picked Storm and Rebecca as F1 and that is just based on the kissing. They aren't, like most viewers, looking that closely at the positive or negative edit of each girl.

And yes - I think that Storm could end up the devastated F2.

I could see him choosing Fleur before choosing Storm. Of course, I only watch and don't do any sleuthing. I leave that to you ladies that know what you are doing. I'm liking Jordon more than I thought I would. I like his dry sense of humor and he has beautiful eyes.


I know Ceri is young and kinda immature right now, but I think I would enjoy a season of her as the lead maybe in a year or so. She has such a tragic background and seems like she is a really sweet girl..I can't see any man mistreating her, : ( There's only a handful of girls that I like this season. There is no Matilda this season that's for sure.

Thank you all that post about the show. I thoroughly enjoy reading all of them as it is normally lunch time or later here in the states before I can find the episode to watch..

You're great at sleuthing @LoveDovez and I think you may be correct that Fleur may be F1. Tonight's episode at the CP reminded me a lot of Art with Matilda when the girls would notice him talking to her and comment on it. That being said, IA there's no Matilda this year but I hope Jordan finds a nice girl and gets a lasting relationship out of this.

@katiebelle I think you are spot on and Jordan only kisses Naz on the cheek on next episode during CP so no kiss on lips based on looking at the preview in slo-mo

As of this ep I am thinking... Fleur, Storm, Rebecca, and Sarah (in F6 and maybe F4). Subject to change as usual

Thanks ladies for your wonderful recap. Did any of the girls actually attack Storm for the kissing at the CP shown tonite? That's what we had seen in the preview before.

Can anyone confirm if Fleur is back on SM. She has yet to post on the public IG account life_as_fleur. TIA.