The Bachelor 20 - Ben Higgins - Episode 5 - Discussion - *Sleuthing - Spoilers*

limoncello wrote:

mtnlvr55 wrote:IMO, I think it is possible that one of the reasons he had very little patience with Jubilee is that he had just returned from his walkabout with Lauren B. He really made up his mind during that time that Lauren B was "the one" or at least "one of the ones."  When Jubilee refused to even hold his hand he probably was thinking, I really don't need this drama, rather than waiting for the rose ceremony he just sent her home right then.  TPTB may even encourage it: someone gets axed pre-rose ceremony every season now. They had the taxi ready: they were likely expecting him to send someone home, she just made his choice easy.

you do realize that a lot of editing is going on on each episode and although we saw the taxi waiting outside the building immediately after Jubs was sent home, a certain amount of time could have passed in between before they actually shot her walking to the cab .

eversotrue wrote:Isn't the "I love them both" the "what's never been done"..? They advertised it just as is, and all that was in that preview was just that: him saying he loves them both.

Fingersandtoes wrote:Have we even seen Lauren talk with the other girls, and about Ben? This episode we saw her and Jubilee cooking a bit, that's about it. She wasn't in any of the group discussion.

sophienette wrote:

eversotrue wrote:

sophienette wrote:

That first sentence is cut, right? "I told 2 women this week that I love..."

Yeah, the "them" is cut out.

If there is a "them"... ;)

Julie81 wrote:

eversotrue wrote:Isn't the "I love them both" the "what's never been done"..? They advertised it just as is, and all that was in that preview was just that: him saying he loves them both.

I think so and that's what I said last night. I think him claiming he loves two women us what has never been done before. We are all speculating that something more will happen but I don't think so. I think that was it. Everything else will play out as normal.

Yes, some are saying that several leads have claimed they loved both women but none have said it to them and it been aired on television.

albean99 wrote:I'll have to watch that clip again tomorrow. To me there's a difference between saying "I love you" and "I'm in love with you" but I thought the 2nd one ended in "as well" or something like that. Strange.

I liked the date with Lauren H but it's clear that he's not feeling it with her. It's funny that he never took Olivia on a 1 on 1 if he really didn't figure her out earlier. I wasn't any more impressed by Amanda after her date and what she said about her ex. I really hope she's not in the mix for lead. Becca gets the worst hair and fake tan award tonight. What was she thinking? I felt for Jubilee but she's so not cut out for this show (or Bachelorette).

The time away with Lauren B seemed special. Everyone else's was nearby. I still like Jojo but didn't like her pulling him away right after her sent Jubilee home. It reminds me of Nick with Andi.

Bet2Win wrote:I didn't think Ben was mean in the least about Olivia.  He chose not to answer the question when given the option by CH.  Olivia herself talked about her dragon breath in the mornings, what if she does have bad breath, is Ben supposed to lie about it?  As far as SM, Olivia alone has dug her own grave, she's flipping whacked with her nonverbal connection with Ben.

I love Jubilee, Ben told her he felt she was pulling back, his saying to her what is he supposed to think when she won't hold his hand was in response to her telling him she isn't pulling back.  She asked him point blank if he sees a future with her, he said no.  He was being kind by not taking her further knowing the process was getting to her, and knowing he wasn't going to choose her in the end.  

I don't think ego had anything to do with either scenario.