The Bachelor 20 - Ben Higgins - General Discussion - *Sleuthing - Spoilers* #3

Ben had mentioned that he feels he is more himself with JoJo so why is it then that JoJo is saying what she is if Ben is being Ben around her.
Caila he sees her as someone who is not ready
Amanda, an amazing single mom who he is giving credit to and there's Lauren, someone he's interested to know and although there was a bump in the road he's want to see more.

Also in the promo, they edited in a Vo of Ben saying, "this is the biggest mistake I made. " Whomever here said Ben regretted saying one of the ily's , I think you're right.

Idlemess wrote:I've actually replayed a few of their interactions and there are all incredible playful, sweet, intense and sexy. I find that the most romantic. In the truck I'm guessing his arm was mostly wrapped around her and her hand rested on his thigh based on how close they sat. She was practically beaming and Ben looked liked like he did... Say and do whatever he could to kiss her and he did and he liked it.

A cute kiss that to him from his reaction was sweet. That was a nice smooth move on his part.

I like his stories with her about his life and his family.

I think that's the biggest tell that he's looking ahead with her. He really wants her to know him. He's telling her about himself and his family, showing her places important to him. We haven't really seen him share much of himself with the others, except for telling JoJo about his Cubs fandom to explain why there were at an empty baseball stadium all day. Mostly he's just trying to draw something out of them. Actually that's what annoys me about this show, most seasons we barely get to know the lead, because it's all about the contestants and what they are feeling at any given moment. The relationships don't feel like a two-way street, but more like a multipart job interview. Doesn't feel that way with Lauren.

mindless wrote:

Idlemess wrote:I've actually replayed a few of their interactions and there are all incredible playful, sweet, intense and sexy. I find that the most romantic. In the truck I'm guessing his arm was mostly wrapped around her and her hand rested on his thigh based on how close they sat. She was practically beaming and Ben looked liked like he did... Say and do whatever he could to kiss her and he did and he liked it.

A cute kiss that to him from his reaction was sweet. That was a nice smooth move on his part.

I like his stories with her about his life and his family.

I think that's the biggest tell that he's looking ahead with her. He really wants her to know him. He's telling her about himself and his family, showing her places important to him. We haven't really seen him share much of himself with the others, except for telling JoJo about his Cubs fandom to explain why there were at an empty baseball stadium all day. Mostly he's just trying to draw something out of them. Actually that's what annoys me about this show, most seasons we barely get to know the lead, because it's all about the contestants and what they are feeling at any given moment. The relationships don't feel like a two-way street, but more like a multipart job interview. Doesn't feel that way with Lauren.

Simply put then, could the others be more or less in love with Ben the Bachelor, and not Ben from Warsaw Indiana? Seems like he's only laying a true foundation with one person regarding that difference.

It looks as though Ben is in Keystone, Colorado for a wedding. Looks like a ski resort. All his buddies are there as well.

Do you think that when they preview , they throw hints of the F1 ? Just as a tease? Because in this preview , when you hear Amamda's Vo saying , "today was the beginning of my love story", you see Ben and Lauren in the airplane .

It happens all the time, ForeverLove and is one of the clues those that enjoy analyzing edit, always look for.

GuardianAngel wrote:It happens all the time, ForeverLove and is one of the clues those that enjoy analyzing edit, always look for.

Thank you GA. It felt like a subliminal hint. I'm probably behind the ball on this, but I'm learning in the best site possible to learn. The Online School of Sluthing.

^^^ Want you to know I burst out laughing at "Sluthing".....Husband think I'm crazy....

iamreal2u wrote:^^^ Want you to know I burst out laughing at "Sluthing".....Husband think I'm crazy....

Oops! Sleuthing. Hope there wasn't coffee in your mouth

Thanks for posting the promo again, FL. I agree with GA that there are clues often in the promo and littered throughout the season when they focus on certain castmates during VOs about "the one," "my wife," etc.

Have we seen Ben say, "Man, I can't do this right now" (2:13)? He's choked up. Is that the F4 RC cut? If they're back at the mansion for that one, it makes sense that he lets Amanda go then.

ForeverLove wrote:Do you think that when they preview , they throw hints of the F1 ? Just as a tease? Because in this preview , when you hear Amamda's Vo saying , "today was the beginning of my love story", you see Ben and Lauren in the airplane .

This happened a bunch in Des' season. JBF used to track that in detail, but then in Chris Soules season they were doing the same thing, but it pointed to Becca as F1. Very disappointing because it was a fun clue to look for.