MAFS - Dave and Ashley - *Sleuthing - Spoilers* - Discussion

jlccaz wrote:
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I just have this motive for people to see what a Complete Farce this show is, and the Utter Lack of Professional Integrity among the experts who tape hours and hours of footage based upon lies.  In the famous words of Elf to the Fake Santa in a favorite family Christmas movie, "you sit on a thrown of lies."

sniglet wrote:See this article where someone said he had a judgement against him for unpaid legal fees.

http://starcasm.net/archives/335998

Then go search civil case #12M22887 on ojs.dekalbcountyga.gov

grace8136 wrote:

sniglet wrote:See this article where someone said he had a judgement against him for unpaid legal fees.

http://starcasm.net/archives/335998

Then go search civil case #12M22887 on ojs.dekalbcountyga.gov

and thanks for posting more info. How have you determined that this is the right David Norton? TIA

sniglet wrote:

grace8136 wrote:

sniglet wrote:See this article where someone said he had a judgement against him for unpaid legal fees.

http://starcasm.net/archives/335998

Then go search civil case #12M22887 on ojs.dekalbcountyga.gov

and thanks for posting more info. How have you determined that this is the right David Norton? TIA

Thanks!  I originally posted this info as speculation on another forum. Since then, I have done some digging and it turns out that he is a long time client of a men's salon where a friend of mine works.  http://eighteeneight.com/atlanta-ga/188-brookhavens-star-studded-clientele/

He confirmed his address as the one posted on the court site.

grace8136 wrote:

sniglet wrote:

grace8136 wrote:

and thanks for posting more info. How have you determined that this is the right David Norton? TIA

Thanks!  I originally posted this info as speculation on another forum. Since then, I have done some digging and it turns out that he is a long time client of a men's salon where a friend of mine works.  http://eighteeneight.com/atlanta-ga/188-brookhavens-star-studded-clientele/

He confirmed his address as the one posted on the court site.

Thanks, I see that Selby Law firm does employment law, so perhaps a problem with a previous employer then an unpaid bill. Do you know if David has a job now?

ArtemisGreen wrote:

crazychicken wrote:

ArtemisGreen wrote:IMO one of the most interesting facts is that the court record reflects the arrest record was requested on June 4th, 2015. Wasn't that the day before, or very close to, the day the marriage took place? 

The request was made 2 days before the wedding which IMO would have been too late for it to be production, I assume you get the record when the fee is paid which was June 29th as there is no set fee according to the website it is charged per hour on how long it took to find/copy etc the record. So David & Ashley were already 3 weeks into the marriage. I could be wrong though as I have never needed a record from Arizona, here we need to pay upfront and since DH needs federal clearance every 2 years we have needed a lot of records.

ArtemisGreen wrote:Another interesting coincidence (?) is that they spent their honeymoon in AZ. Wasn't it in the Scottsdale or Phoenix area? 

The honeymoons would be arranged before the couples would even be finalised IMO, production would try to get as much comped as possible and that takes time plus if that is the one state that David does have a record you think it would be the one that he would actually avoid.

ArtemisGreen wrote:IMO the fact that he participated in Domestic Violence class is likely reflective that someone was affected by his violent and damaging actions. 

I grew up in a home with domestic violence. Yet, my father was extremely kind and well behaved around visitors and neighbors. Behind closed doors he was horrific. So just because someone, anyone, is well behaved in front of a camera crew doesn't really mean much, IMO.

To me the fact that he was eligible for the program shows that this was probably his first offense, I am assuming this is the program he needed to complete
http://sagecounseling.net/programs.html

and to be eligible he needed to have no conviction for the previous 5 years in any state per
http://www.azleg.state.az.us/ars/13/03601-01.htm

If he had further incidences with the muck racking team Ashley has done they would have at insinuated about those as well, even with no concrete proof that this is the same David they have pointed people to the rumors more than once so why wouldn't they point out further instances. I do not agree with any form of domestic violence but I know that I myself have lost my temper in the moment and when I calmed down was not proud of my behavior. I could have been arrested many time over if the police followed me around 24/7, at uni we stole flowers from the nearly botanical gardens nearly weekly to us it was a harmless joke, looking back we could have been in some serious trouble if we got caught. Not to mention the loud fights we got into as young adults, I did not learn that loud arguing does not equal passion until my early 20's, heck people still tell me that I mustn't love my husband as we do not argue at 44 they do not realize that no we do not always agree but we do not raise our voices and some things you just need to let go. Both of us grew up in a loud aggressive environment and it took us some time and effort to learn that it was not the best way to communicate, I commend anybody that is willing to change.

At the end of the day since this is a legal marriage as the experts keep stressing IMO anybody with a record should be excluded as you do not know what is acceptable to the new spouse and we all have different levels of what we are willing to accept. As this is a marriage the criteria should be more stringent but then they would not have a show as lets face it it does take a certain type of person to apply for reality TV and even those people would be whittled down further as some would not want to marry even for their 15 minutes.

If this is the same David then Ashley has a right to be pissed at production and the experts if it was a  deal breaker for her, but she was married after we had all seen Ryan DeNino and his temper if that was not a red flag to pull out I do not know what else would be.

Disagree about the record. Makes sense that legal counsel would want copy of record for liability issues. We have all seen the lack of thoroughness by MAFS. It does not show any other requests. IMO
The Domestic Violence class  and the Psychological Counseling reflect that someone else was involved. im very familiar with Family Law.
Was Davina aware she was marrying a felon on probation? Was Ashley aware she was marrying a man who has been in jail and court mandated to DV classes and Psychological Counseling?  IMO very sloppy on MAFS part.