Josh Murray - Bachelorette 10 - Discussion - #9

I think of course there are always exceptions. But most 20-year-olds aren't ready for a serious relationship with a man 30+ years old. Of course, that may also not be what Josh is looking for.

No, I don't think this makes Josh a pedifile or a predator, of course not. But I do think it shows a slight amount of perhaps emotional immaturity on his part. Of course, unless he found that rare 20-year-old that's the exception to the rule. JMO. .

My goodness, this was 2 women of how many women he's dated? We don't know. I wouldn't say 2 makes a pattern.

Loveinterest wrote:My goodness, this was 2 women of how many women he's dated?  We don't know.  I wouldn't say 2 makes a pattern.

IA and I don't blame him for dating whom ever he wants. It's all part of life's plan where we learn what we want and what we don't want IMHO.

Josh has issued another response to Andi's book today:

http://www.glamour.com/story/the-bachelorette-andi-dorfman-new-details-about-josh-murray-split?mbid=twitter_glamourdotcom

clipped from Glamour Magazine:
UPDATE: We talked to Murray for his thoughts on Andi's book. Here's what he said: "To be honest, I’m kind of staying quiet about it. I respected the relationship and what we had, but I am not one to kiss and tell. She can take whatever road she wants to take. I just pray for her happiness and peace and hope she can get [past] it."

Good for him to continue to take the high road in this so far!

He has more self control than I. I hope he sticks with this line of comment.

Burn. That is a great statement .

Andi's book...

Josh, whom Dorfman refers to in the book as “Number 26,” at first praised Andi’s career-driven mindset, she says, but soon made it clear he wanted to be the breadwinner—trying such careers as selling penny stocks and hawking health supplements, she writes—while she took the role of “domestic goddess.”

Toward the end of their relationship, Josh’s smile was “just a mask covering the control he exerted in private. He had an uncanny way of manipulating situations and conversations to make me feel like the worst person in the world,” she writes.

She says he called her “selfish and unappreciative” and the most miserable person he’d ever met. “If we didn’t get invited to a red-carpet event, he’d say it was ‘because of my actions with Number Twenty-Five [referring to Nick].’ If I talked to another man, I was a ‘whore.’ If I disagreed, I was ‘argumentative.’ If I defied him, I was a ‘bitch.’” Later in the book she writes, “I wasn’t being beaten and battered . . . but I was staying in a relationship that I knew was lethal.”

http://www.atlantamagazine.com/news-culture-articles/atlantas-bachelorette-andi-dorfman-tells-all/

Does anyone remember the last red carpet they were on (with the matching eyebrows ) Is there video footage just to see how they both were able to continue the charade of a relationship?

jen689 wrote:snipped

She says he called her “selfish and unappreciative” and the most miserable person he’d ever met.

http://www.atlantamagazine.com/news-culture-articles/atlantas-bachelorette-andi-dorfman-tells-all/

Sounds like Josh has her pegged. Andi is definitely those things, imo.

He's a joke!! Go back and watch the episode where they take the lie detector and see how he was the only one ticked off. Then when Andi and him were discussing it (if that's what you call it) Andi went to get up and he grabbed her wrist. He's a hot head. Look how many times he would post something about the Kansas city chiefs and then take it down after he had time to cool down. Ill give me credit for the charities he does for the children but I'm not a 100% it's for them and not for him. Besides he went off and did the reality show about couple therapy coming out in June. Whose to say he doesn't bad mouth Andi. I listened to a pod cast he did with Chase Christley and he made some nasty comments about her without mentioning he name same as Andi has. Plus Chase had to stop him and say we can't go that direction on air. A woman abused whether verbally or physically is a dangerous weapon! Now I'm not saying air everything out but we all know there is always some truth to what is being said. I loved Andi and Josh and wanted them to get back together after they broke up but now after his twitter comments always trying to put the blame on her and not take responsibility is so typical of his immature boyish personality. One thing I will say is they both have strong personalities and probably not easy to back away.

Outside of charity work, there isn't much I find redeemable about Josh and his clingy family. Ok, maybe Sabel.

AllAboutLove wrote:

jen689 wrote:snipped

She says he called her “selfish and unappreciative” and the most miserable person he’d ever met.

http://www.atlantamagazine.com/news-culture-articles/atlantas-bachelorette-andi-dorfman-tells-all/

Sounds like Josh has her pegged. Andi is definitely those things, imo.

Yep, IMO he saw right through her when the camera's were off, what nightmare he must have endured for months.

I'll never forget seeing the pictures of him spending Christmas in Sin City with her family, when Christmas is one of the biggest holidays celebrated by Christians, and by Josh. On fb, there were pictures of him in past Christmas holidays in Tampa, having a cookie making contest with his parents and siblings. They always went to Church on Christmas & Josh never spent it in a Las Vegas Casino before then.

I felt then, MeAndi never compromised for Josh. He had to be so miserable for months, and wanted out. Don't forget, she said she was the boss, so the break up didn't shock me, saw it coming a mile away, and I felt relief for Josh and his family.

All JMO