Bachelor - Bachelorette - Statistics - NO Discussion - *Sleuthing - Spoilers*

Aunties_Love wrote:I know in the past this meant something and thought I'd bring it forward in case it is wanted now.

fantasy suite prices

Lauren: had the Villa Plantana @ 1,058.00 pp/pn - sleuthed out as correct location pics match show

Jojo: had the Romeo/Juliet Villa(per sign on door) at Ochi, Ocho Rios next door to Royal Plantation @ 465.00 pp/pn

Caila: had the Prime Minister at Plantation @ 672.00 pp/pn - sleuthed out as the correct location

GuardianAngel wrote:

agentcurls wrote:Just trying to keep track. I understand this is probably futile, but I'm just going with it. Plus, it's nice to look back on it as a reference later. 
Disclaimer: I added quite a bit to the Lauren side. Plus, Lauren's side is a little more post-show clue heavy and JoJo's is more edit heavy. 
I tried to recall and document what other's have told me to subtract/add. Please let me know if there is more. 

Lauren F1:
Spoiler
Undeniable attraction & bond
Special 1-on-1 time to walk thru Mex City
Photo of their first interaction at mansion
Ben wowed upon first glance out of limo "she takes my breath away"
Blindside references (JoJo, Becca, Ben) 
Family seems happy/excited
Mollie's Snapchat about Lauren's US Weekly cover
Friends of Ben's and youth center following her SM & she follows them
Possible Twitter clues ("fixer upper" references, L's Piglet one-sie to Ben's Pooh Bear, various food pics, sushi post, country music post)
Her quieter SM activity, sans promos (low-key F1 behavior)
Ben's trips to LA
JoJo's lack of travel to LA
Other contestants commented on their obvious connection
Not much is said about Lauren in Ben's ITMs (would give too much away?) 
Personal invitation to 1-on-1 in Indiana & in his everyday element, met his friends
JoJo being more guarded, the relationship never catches up
JoJo's busy SM activity (maybe preparing for next step post-Ben?)
Is JoJo going through motions/scripting to get 'Ette role? 
Us Weekly story (Usually some grains of truth?)
Lauren is emo in ITMs (peredit, in line typical F1)
ILY-gate put out early in season
TPTB have held back in previews LauBen confessions for a later time to possibly get max impact 
Ben shown saying an emotional ILY to L in preview
Season preview: "What we have is real (hugs Caila) and scary (w.fall jump with JoJo) and amazing (kisses Amanda in hot tub) and just (kisses Lauren H.) incredible (kisses Caila FD NP) No Lauren B. in sight
Season preview: no LB profession of feelings or love in person; but one JoJo confession in person
Ben's speechless, tearful breakdown with Mollie when she expressed some skepticism
Ben's talk of getting down on one knee to L's father, looking emo
Lauren traveled back to LA from Portland the same day Ben flew in (for taping of WTA)
Lauren's "girlfriend" & "wife" references
THE LOOKS, Ben can't put his feelings for L into words it seems
JoJo's strange/hostile HTD (staged?)(the point of whom no one would return?)
JoJo's ex (questions looming: is she over him?)
Ben might've liked one of L's IG pics by mistake, then quickly unliked
Disney Tinkerbell dust promo with Lauren (from night one) getting "the last rose"  (subliminal messaging?)
Order of filming HTD & FDs; both of Lauren's were filmed last (F1)
Lauren got the best choice/biggest/more luxurious FS out of F3
FD seems hand-picked for Lauren, Ben does those "special things" for her
Recent silk green robe IG post (worn throughout season, Jamaica clips)
Is Ben calling Lauren's dad just before FRC? (he didn't solidify asking for her hand during HTD)
CH talking up JoJo (trying to put her more center)

Foiler/upset:
Would Ben take JoJo all the way to F2 just to dump her after he promised her he wouldn't blindside her? (he let Becca go early after she told him the same)
Spoiled F1 front and center (not as hidden as previous F1s) for majority of season
Spoiler put out quite early in season
Blinding viewers w/LauBen in edit post-spoiler so other relationships go under the radar? 
Foiler was overturned by SnapchatGate last season, when will another foiler strike?
Possible intense, but quick flame vs. slow burn edit
JoJo's edit - narrating a lot; camera pans to her often for her reactions: jealousy, sadness, happiness 
JoJo's edit - the supportive/nurturing/dependable figure...Ben's VO "she makes me a better man" (is this about JoJo? He did say she makes him feel better himself)
Doubts/fears expressed by JoJo, a more dynamic character arc and challenge to overcome
Curious you tube channel dedicated to Lauren: "xBushnellBachelorettex"
MF's comment about this season being his 2nd fave after Jolly's, why? 
"3/4 of a Mesnick" reference, (What IS a Bensnick exactly? Is it crying over the rail or something more (no switch though.) ?)
JoJo's less detached SM compared to Lauren (a more positive experience for her?)
JoJo's overwhlemingly positive SM, especially abc posts (would she do that if she was blindsided F2? maybe...)
JoJo's "wife" references
Season preview "It's not often in life that you get the opportunity (FD boat embrace w/Caila) to shake things up (LauBen kiss on FD beach). I want to come out of this a better man for my wife" (BenJo fireworks kiss)
Lauren's edit: Will imperfect Ben be ok with Lauren? She admitted she was very picky to Ben. Dad also pointed it out. She seems pretty concerned about how Ben sees her. Why didn't she brush off the Leah stuff? Why wasn't she more confident? Could it be b/c someone called her out on being less than perfect. I see a theme here.  Does she really love Ben, the boy-next-door from Warsaw or is she trying to convince herself? Is it bubble-love? Ben saying mid-way thru he didn't have to question who Lauren was anymore (so maybe he was questioning it?) vs. JoJo, who he is already so comfortable w/ and whom he can be himself with. Is her doubt/challenge believable given how Ben looks at her, does special things for her that he hasn't done for others, etc? I'm not really buying it.)
With so many "blindside" references, does this maybe imply the general audience/majority will be? 
JoJo's Twitter post: Wrigley field pic of her & Ben with caption: "Thank you for making it memorable for US", quickly changed to "me"
JoJo's VO "I will be nervous until he gets down on one knee"

ALL of the above, JMO. ^^^^^

Aunties_Love wrote:

Ash2214 wrote:I did some quick digging and I just wanted to note somewhere that in the last few Bachelorette seasons, Jef, Chris Siegfried, Josh and Shawn all had their first 1-on-1 on episode five I believe. I'm not sure if that's a quincidence or not, but it might be interesting to note who gets a 1-on-1 next week for episode five.

Things can always change though and her F1 could have already had their first 1-on-1.  

Yep to the bolded.  According to past stats, this is when they switch things up.  They only seem to let it go about 4 seasons, then they switch up the order...what I mean by that, is when a lead is more interested in someone than the others, they likely put that person on a certain date.  Now in the past as it has been in Ben's season, the 3rd epi has had the F1.  Now with Jojo, she was F2 and had her ID in epi 4.  Could her F1 be the same??

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Aunties_Love wrote:

Ash2214 wrote:Just out of curiosity, does anyone know how often the F1 has gotten the last FD? Not while it airs on television, but during actual filming? Just off the top of my head in recent seasons I know that Lauren and Josh both got the last one.

HTD order


Filming order is the last number

bette 10

F1:  3rd
F2:  1st
F3:  2nd
F4:  4th



bette 8

F1:  2nd
F2:  3rd
F3:  4th
F4:  1st


bette 7

F1:  3rd
F2:  1st
F3:  2nd
F4:  4th


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Bachelor:


10:
F1:  3rd
F2:  1st
F3:  2nd
F4:  4th


11:

F1:  2nd
F2:  3rd
F3:  4th
F4:  1st


15

F1:  2nd
F3:  4th

GuardianAngel wrote:

Aunties_Love wrote:

Ash2214 wrote:Just out of curiosity, does anyone know how often the F1 has gotten the last FD? Not while it airs on television, but during actual filming? Just off the top of my head in recent seasons I know that Lauren and Josh both got the last one.

HTD order


Filming order is the last number

bette 10

F1:  3rd
F2:  1st
F3:  2nd
F4:  4th



bette 8

F1:  2nd
F2:  3rd
F3:  4th
F4:  1st


bette 7

F1:  3rd
F2:  1st
F3:  2nd
F4:  4th


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Bachelor:


10:
F1:  3rd
F2:  1st
F3:  2nd
F4:  4th


11:

F1:  2nd
F2:  3rd
F3:  4th
F4:  1st


15

F1:  2nd
F3:  4th

GuardianAngel wrote:

MiniDiva wrote:This is from the Promo Video GA posted upthread.  We have the guys lined up for the RC, JoJo about to give her first rose, Luke asks JoJo if he can talk to her for a sec, and JoJo's reaction to the question. (Assuming it is in sequence).

Is Luke standing in the F4 position based on previous F4 RC or does he appear to be in the F2 position?  




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