The Bachelor 20 - Ben Higgins - F1 to F4 - *Sleuthing - Spoilers*

AllAboutLove wrote:Being a returnee doesn't matter to me.

If I could change anything about this show it would not be that there are no returnees it would be that there is NO sex and NO proposal.

I dislike those two things much, much more than any returnee.  

That there is not a huge backlash against those two things but there is backlash against returnees (one of whom is a virgin) blows my mind.  

I did not like last seasons returnee but it never bothered me before.

But these two things particularly the proposal is what bothers me about thus show.

Kashathediva wrote:Yep^^ It's not so much on the main as it is on production. Someone has to be F2.
What I can say this time around after getting a more 3 dimensional profile of Becca--she might make a great lead for the 'ette.  Seriously! (I know I can't believe I am saying this, however one of my fav cast was Sadie Murray). 
I am optimistically happy for Ben regardless of how the season goes.

. Going against the current, but I'm Team Becca, although IMO she doesn't have a chance.

AllAboutLove wrote:Being a returnee doesn't matter to me.
If I could change anything about this show it would be that there is NO sex and NO proposal!!!
I dislike those two things much, much more than any returnee.  

That there is not huge backlash against those two things but there is backlash against returnees (one of whom is a virgin) blows my mind.  

Well, they're going to have sex. At least some of them. :winkie: I just feel that I don't need to know about it, at least through official channels.

As for the proposal, I think they all realize that it's something of a shot in the dark. When they get back to real life, they begin the difficult task of making it work.

RS said Becca's HT is Friday 30th...on her birthday..just like last time

Of course.

Carolinagirl1864 wrote:RS said Becca's HT is Friday 30th...on her birthday..just like last time

Well they can't have a ferris wheel ride, since they're already going to a carnival today!

AllAboutLove wrote:Being a returnee doesn't matter to me.
If I could change anything about this show it would be that there is NO sex and NO proposal!!!
I dislike those two things much, much more than any returnee.  

That there is not huge backlash against those two things but there is backlash against returnees (one of whom is a virgin) blows my mind.  

There was a huge backlash against Kaitlyn for having sex with Nick before the FS even though she did nothing wrong. It was so bad they had that whole segment on the MTA about the cyber-bullying she received because of it and CH read a bunch of the nasty tweets she got. So there has been backlash against sex on this show.

I'll agree on the proposals though. Those are just as stupid to me as the returnees begging to come back on the show for another chance to possibly get rejected again.

I have just had it with the lead choosing to have sex with any of the contestants.  

It is 100% not necessary, imo, which is based on Bach/Bette Aussie and Bach NZ which prove it is not necessary at all since all of the leads never had sex with any contestants (no overnights) and their relationships are still going strong.

I'd campaign for no sex/overnights before I would bother with campaigning for no returnees. And what blows me away is that it is the LEAD's choice to have the sex but as long as he is a "good guy" he gets away with it.  

IMO, no matter WHO the lead is it is low class and stupid of him/her to have sex with any contestant, including his F1. That is not a forced thing, they choose to do it.

It honestly baffles me that returnees are disliked as much as they are... and it is the case with all of them, no matter if the person themselves is disliked or said that it is because they are disliked the real reason always seems to be the "returnee status" rather than the person since if the person is liked then their returnee status is liked and vice versa.

It seems it is more about what is on the TV screens being "new" and "fresh". As if being a new face will be more real or genuine for this ridiculous show. Lots of new contestants have been on these shows and still they can be terrible so I care more about how classy the person is on the show than about how many times they are on or anything else.

bluwavz wrote:

Diana wrote:

umngirl wrote:This is just stupid IMO. #TeamAnyoneButBecca

I'm curious why people think this?

I can't speak for umngirl or anyone else but I just know I'm sick of the returnees. Now everyone is going to want to come back on the show every season since two of their fellow Bach family members in a row made it to the F4. #NoReturnees

I got to say, after all these years, I am almost sick of the show. SO--if anyone is sincere despite this production craziness and manipulativeness, it might be refreshing. I am having a hard time wrapping my brain around it.

AllAboutLove wrote:Being a returnee doesn't matter to me.
If I could change anything about this show it would be that there is NO sex and NO proposal!!!
I dislike those two things much, much more than any returnee.  

That there is not huge backlash against those two things but there is backlash against returnees (one of whom is a virgin) blows my mind.  

Sorry for the possible double post --however--I had to add: 
I personally like sex, but not necessarily on the show. I think most people enjoy sex? No? (joking!)

I had no idea the show was so scripted until now.

Oh great maybe another ferris wheel this year too.