The Bachelor 20 - Ben Higgins - F1 to F4 - *Sleuthing - Spoilers*

It just seems like TPTB have been very good in the past at manipulating either the lead or the contestants to believe things that aren't true. I think it's possible that if Lauren is feeling pretty good about the date they could mention things to make her feel the competition or insecure.

Or it could be she really really likes Ben and is ready for his dates with other girls to be over. This is the final date before Ben makes HT decisions and maybe she was feeling the pressure.

Maybe she wasn't upset at all.

RS said everyone knew Ben wanted/wants Lauren half way through filming. What's half way through filming? Epsiode 5?

Does he mean filming till now or filming the entire season .

nd4reality wrote:Does  he mean filming till now or filming the entire season .

That's what I'm wondering.. Lol

Cause filming of the entire season, would be epsiode 5. Filming to now, would be episode 3 or 4.

The show has been filming for 4 weeks? Or 5? Either way, at this point, half way, would mean Ben has been all about Lauren for about 2 or 3 weeks, right?

Now that it's confirmed that all the ladies know Ben wants Lauren, the Amanda and Ben interaction couldn't be more clear IMO. She knows there's no chance, he knows there's no chance, they know there's no chance. Going through the motions indeed. That date was pretty self explanatory... I really wonder what kind of editing magic they're gonna do this season, if that date was any indication AND the girls being in the know about who Ben wants.. Should be interesting.

Woohoo! Team Lauren! That BL is all we ever need to know imo.

I think it'll be similar to Shawn/Kaitlyn where Kaitlyn made it super obvious she wanted Shawn and all the guys seemed to know it and be over it by the end. Except Nick. I'm just interested to see if there's a girl in the f4 who actually still wants Ben and believes she has a chance with him, or are they all over it and just competing for the bachelorette gig? Jmo.

Not really surprising. Their chemistry was apparent even in photos.

nothatgirl wrote:I think it'll be similar to Shawn/Kaitlyn where Kaitlyn made it super obvious she wanted Shawn and all the guys seemed to know it and be over it by the end. Except Nick. I'm just interested to see if there's a girl in the f4 who actually still wants Ben and believes she has a chance with him, or are they all over it and just competing for the bachelorette gig? Jmo.

If they all know it then probably for b'ette or bip which for the girls can include even the f2.

Have recent seasons spoiled so much at this point of pre-season ?

nothatgirl wrote:I think it'll be similar to Shawn/Kaitlyn where Kaitlyn made it super obvious she wanted Shawn and all the guys seemed to know it and be over it by the end. Except Nick. I'm just interested to see if there's a girl in the f4 who actually still wants Ben and believes she has a chance with him, or are they all over it and just competing for the bachelorette gig? Jmo.

I'm wondering if Becca still wanted Ben. I do think her deciding to leave on her own is more plausible with this bit of info, though I'm leaning toward Ben just dumping her his first opportunity.