Amanda Stanton - Bachelor 20 - *Sleuthing - Spoilers*

bluwavz wrote:Can you imagine all the sympathy and support she'll get after Olivia supposedly calls her a teen mom?

The pitchforks will be sharp And then I suspect Amanda will take the high road on WTA, sealing her lead spot. She comes off as sweet and I have a feeling I'm going to like her by the end. But I'm still on the fence about next Bachelorette because of the other options moreso than the kiddos (although they make me a little uncomfortable, I'm not gonna lie). And I love that Lauren/Amanda are good friends after the show, but the lead doesn't always have to be besties with the F1, or have his/her approval for me to get on board. I'm just not fully sold on anyone as lead yet.

There was a little segment in Amanda's intro where she asked one of the girls what prince charming's name was, and the girl said Ben with an exasperated sigh like she'd been coached one too many times If we can limit those kind of scenes, please production  I cringe.

I remember RS wrote that Amanda graduated from a Paul Mitchell esthetician school. Her ex left a comment saying his facts were way off, but I don't know what he was alluding to.

AllAboutLove wrote:

nothatgirl wrote:

FLChica wrote:Every Bach/'ette season and its contestants are used to set up the next one. Nothing different about this one. Every Bach/'ette season has a crazy one, a villain, a few reluctant or shy ones and more than a few that are comfortable being on camera. It's how the show has rolled on for 20 seasons.

I don't have any reason to think that Amanda's two young daughters were neglected or will suffer negative effects from her appearance on the show. A previous lead said his child (older than these two during the show) doesn't even remember that time. Another child  was able to be with her mom during filming as well. It seems TPTB have found ways to include single parents in the show. Gotta move forward with the times,I guess.

Yup, Molly said that Ty doesn't remember filming the Bach or the ette and doesn't remember meeting her at all.  It's still not the best parenting decision in the world, but it's really not as traumatic as I used to think either. Especially now with FT-ing, when the kids do get to "see" and talk to the parent every day.

I don't think the trauma for the children is the issue but rather why a mother would want to be away form her really young (1.5 year old) to find "love" on a show like this. And as sweet as Ben is, I am sorry but there's no way he at 26 wants two young children already. Not happening. And he never chose her as his F1 so to me, no matter how much her storyline is there or whatever, Ben didn't want to be engaged/dating her. And Emily, imo, is a whole other kettle of fish, so not going there to justify Amanda's reasons.

It's interesting to see the various interpretations of what happened on the show. Ben made it clear during his time with Amanda that he was very interested in her children and that they would be considered in everything moving forward. He made other statements detailing his willingness to date a woman with children, so I won't list them here.

To be very clear: I did not use the actions of another contestant/lead to justify Amanda going on the show. We have been reminded by our mod not to do that in another thread. I said TPTB have found ways to include single parents on the show.

FLChica wrote:

AllAboutLove wrote:

nothatgirl wrote:

Yup, Molly said that Ty doesn't remember filming the Bach or the ette and doesn't remember meeting her at all.  It's still not the best parenting decision in the world, but it's really not as traumatic as I used to think either. Especially now with FT-ing, when the kids do get to "see" and talk to the parent every day.

I don't think the trauma for the children is the issue but rather why a mother would want to be away form her really young (1.5 year old) to find "love" on a show like this. And as sweet as Ben is, I am sorry but there's no way he at 26 wants two young children already. Not happening. And he never chose her as his F1 so to me, no matter how much her storyline is there or whatever, Ben didn't want to be engaged/dating her. And Emily, imo, is a whole other kettle of fish, so not going there to justify Amanda's reasons.

It's interesting to see the various interpretations of what happened on the show. Ben made it clear during his time with Amanda that he was very interested in her children and that they would be considered in everything moving forward. He made other statements detailing his willingness to date a woman with children, so I won't list them here.  

To be very clear: I did not use the actions of another contestant/lead to justify Amanda going on the show. We have been reminded by our mod not to do that in another thread. I said TPTB have found ways to include single parents on the show.

Normally I would say "Well, a lead has to say that. They're not going to pull a Kalon and admit that they hate the idea of step children. They'd become the most hated lead ever". But, with Ben, I actually believed him! He was just immediately seemed excited and relieved when Amanda told him. And the guy's not a good actor. I really believe that if Amanda was the person he fell for, he would have been accepting of her children. I think that if guys like Brad, Jef, Nikki, and Molly could do accept a step-child, I don't see any reason Ben could too. Molly was only 24 when she became a step-mother! People do things that they wouldn't have thought of for the right person.

Ben didn't even flinch when Amanda told him about her daughters. No pauses, awkward faces, sound effects, nothing. He straight away said "really? Tell me about them" and positioned his body towards her. He seemed genuinely interested and "all ears". If he fell in love with her, he would do anything for her and those kids. Most of his best friends are married with kids under the age of 2. And he keeps stating how ready he is for a wife and family, so I really don't think it would of been a problem for him at all.

Ben loves kids, no doubt. His charity is all about kids. His shining moment on Kaitlyn's season was talking about sex to kids.

So to me, Ben's response about Amanda having kids was excited because it is a topic he is very, very, very comfortable with and an area he shines in and not about Amanda herself.

It's half why I think they had Amanda have a HTD just so audiences can picture Ben as a dad and because TPTB saw how viewers responded to Ben on that Sex Ed date with the kids.

That's all it was to me... not in any way that Ben wants to be a step-dad and into Amanda. Even those photos of them and videos too at the carnival showed me Ben going through the motions.

Plus, Lauren being besties with her makes me think that even more... that Lauren felt so comfortable around her (even in that promo clip of Amanda saying the other girl - probably Olivia - is a manipulative b) makes me think that there wasn't anything there really with Ben towards Amanda and Ben's response was nothing more than TPTB putting Ben in situation where he shines and makes their lead look really good: marriage material and not too young for kids.

^I agree. I think if anyone was a producer pick for HTD's it was Amanda. They want viewers' ovaries to explode while watching Ben with two little kiddos.

mindless wrote:^I agree. I think if anyone was a producer pick for HTD's it was Amanda. They want viewers' ovaries to explode while watching Ben with two little kiddos.

Yup! That's why I think she was picked purposely for this. And living near Lauren? How convenient.
If anyone was producer pick it was Amanda, imo. :Nod:
And it seems that the guys (JJ, Nick, Brooks, etc) and even CS have got the memo about her too and pushing that agenda already.
Now to just watch the audience go "Awwwwwww" when Ben meets her little ones and holds them in his sweet, sweet arms.

AllAboutLove wrote:
Ben loves kids, no doubt. His charity is all about kids. His shining moment on Kaitlyn's season was talking about sex to kids.

So to me, Ben's response about Amanda having kids was excited because it is a topic he is very, very, very comfortable with and an area he shines in and not about Amanda herself.

It's half why I think they had Amanda have a HTD just so audiences can picture Ben as a dad and because TPTB saw how viewers responded to Ben on that Sex Ed date with the kids.

That's all it was to me... not in any way that Ben wants to be a step-dad and into Amanda. Even those photos of them and videos too at the carnival showed me Ben going through the motions.

Plus, Lauren being besties with her makes me think that even more... that Lauren felt so comfortable around her (even in that promo clip of Amanda saying the other girl - probably Olivia - is a manipulative b) makes me think that there wasn't anything there really with Ben towards Amanda and Ben's response was nothing more than TPTB putting Ben in situation where he shines and makes their lead look really good: marriage material and not too young for kids.

I agree.

What about ABC's diversity statements? Amanda is as far from diverse as you can find! I still think it is Calia's to lose. I cannot see it going to Jubilee.

Yeah, I think it was really obvious that Ben and Amanda did not have a romantic connection. She didn't look like she was that into him either at the carnival, TBH! They had a very friendly vibe. I think that's partially why she made it so far - he liked her as a friend and respected her. I also think she is someone that TPTB are pushing - all the alums are supporting her on SM, she got a 87% vote on the Bachelor Live poll, CH said "people are really liking Amanda!", etc. Once she gets dumped after introducing her kids to Ben? I'm guessing she's going to have a lot of people supporting her and wanting her to find love. JMO.

nutty1 wrote:What about ABC's diversity statements? Amanda is as far from diverse as you can find! I still think it is Calia's to lose. I cannot see it going to Jubilee.

RS pointed out that the same ABC president made very similar remarks last year. I think it's something that they could easily get of saying "oh, no, we meant the Bachelorette cast, not the lead herself!". I don't think that they've made a decision yet and I really doubt that they would cancel out Jojo and Amanda as options this early in the game.

We've already had three single parent leads already so I hope they pass on her. TPTB is good at manipulating the viewers though and after Olivia allegedly makes the "teen mom" crack, the sympathy for Amanda will increase. I mostly think it will be Caila but I can't deny that Amanda probably has a decent shot as well and probably more fans than Caila does. I think she has the personality of a wet rag so I'm crossing my fingers it's not her.