The Bachelorette Australia - Sam Frost - Season 1 - Episode Discussions - #2 - *Spoilers - Sleuthing*

so how I imagine this will go?

sasha: extremely well, sister and brothers will like him a lot. probably a lot more than michael. cons: sasha not saying the L word to his sister.

michael: preconceived views about soccer player. dated athlete before, burnt before. selfish bachelor blah blah blah. michael will be on the hot seat and nervous to please her family. cons: not playing in the same league

The fantasy dates will be amazing with both, a bit physicial with michael.

but the family meeting will give the public a "hold your breath moment", drama drums ... and then you know my ending.

they always play the card with family do not like the F1 ..... remember tim and april? remember Ashley and JP? I learned my lesson for sure!

@hea is it possible to make gifs of Michael and Sasha arriving to FRC?

yes of course

see2love wrote:

Check the pocket handkerchief (the piece of fabric in their front pocket...i don't know the real name ) guys!!
White for Sash and black for Michael. A discrete version of the white and black dress.

djogbenyuie wrote:

see2love wrote:

Check the pocket handkerchief (the piece of fabric in their front pocket...i don't know the real name ) guys!!
White for Sash and black for Michael. A discrete version of the white and black dress.

LOL I can`t that`s hilarious. It`s actually like a running gag

djogbenyuie wrote:

see2love wrote:

Check the pocket handkerchief (the piece of fabric in their front pocket...i don't know the real name ) guys!!
White for Sash and black for Michael. A discrete version of the white and black dress.

I saw that too. DONE DEAL.

but but but ... michael's bow has white dots eh???

djogbenyuie wrote:

see2love wrote:

Check the pocket handkerchief (the piece of fabric in their front pocket...i don't know the real name ) guys!!
White for Sash and black for Michael. A discrete version of the white and black dress.

I cant believe I missed that. It is settled then...the pocket thingy decides it.

noooooo i see white dots !!!!!!

I like Richie, but I don't think he was ever that invested. Sure he had a crush, but he definitely had his guard up and he was kind of distant and awkward compared to the other guys. Even after he awkwardly talked about being open to falling in love, he just sipped his wine instead of kissing her. He also laughed when she wanted to kiss him while they were playing in the snow. The romance just wasn't natural between them, so I think she definitely made the right decision.

I see the chemistry between Sam and both of the guys left, but at the moment I see more affection towards Michael. That's why I find it a bit weird that she'd choose Sasha. Perhaps her family doesn't like Michael and it'll cause enough doubt for her to lean towards the easier choice. I do like Michael though and find him the most sophisticated by far. I can see how that's seen as fake, but I don't feel like he is. His dad is a very good talker as well, so clearly it's something he's been brought up with. We all learn from our parents. I don't hold that against him, or his football career.

I like Sasha too when he's being sweet and tender towards her, but he's got a bit of bogan vibe to him and I'm not sure what he's like to live with in real life. I can envision him getting drunk with the boys every weekend and such. I might be totally wrong and it doesn't make him a bad guy, just not my type. But if she chose him then good luck to them!

thanks @mindless this is exactly what I think.

richie had a huge crush on sam before his arrival, sweet and adorably awkward. I think he does not have this maturity that sam is looking for and give him few years from now and he will be an incredible devoted husband. Right now, all I see is a nice kid who needs to make a distinction between mom/sis and friends and his girlfriend. Right now, I think he wants them all at the same time which is not the ideal IMO

Sasha is a good guy. a man's man. The best buddy any guy can have. Loyal and sweet. From ep1, we saw him around dave and davey in many episodes after that. Everyone teased him when davey left and his face, but I truly think that is exactly how he felt: I love one of my best mate. He is this good and gentle guy and I think he has an enormous heart. He was caring and sweet with sam when she was unwell. He was falling for her but he said it many times this season and in interviews that he has a hard time to express his feelings (said that even sam got frustrated at times). So for him, it more about showing versus saying. Being sweet, caring, protective, etc. But even if sasha hold her in his arms, I see them more often outside his arms than under his arms. They are more face to face to discuss versus next to each other. I am not sure if saying that he loved her or was in love was because he did not reach that stage yet or because it is something that he cannot say. I think he was not raised to express his emotions and even though he is a very nice man, I think sam wants a person who will replicate her affectionate gestures. I think the only reason why he was that way is because he did not spend enough 1-1 time with sam to build this intimacy.

Michael did not loose any minute with sam. He made sure of that so their relationship started sooner with a progressive and steady rhythm. They were discovering emotionally with their goals and values and when they found that they had identical views, physical came naturally. It was an evolution, natural. Sam was more advanced with michael at hometown than any other guy. She already crossed the bridge of knowing who was michael versus sasha she asked him: I am not a rich girl (did not say that way but it was implied). So if sam explains that after 9 episodes, he did not know her and it is easy to assume she did not know him with his goals and values. But again, at F3 dates, with michael it was to consolidate what they already build. It was another extended time to talk. She never had activities with michael, just period of time to favor talking. and talking is crutial.

That is why for me michael is my choice from the beginning because I saw this evolution from like, to crush, to lust, to boyfriend material. It was a natural progression. And lusting is a good thing in a relationship IMO. It is part or it.

Wish sasha it was more like, crush and (maybe) lust. I have to say maybe because I saw only friendship and tenderness for a great guy.

So we will see soon enough. The only thing I am happy about is michael, richie and sasha look all 3 happy NOW.

Great post @mindless. 

I love Richie but I never saw the connection with him and Sam. Fantastic friendship - yes. Heart fluttering I want to kiss you all night - no. 

IMO I think if he was that into her and really wanted to have a relationship with her he would have let his guard down more.

Or he could have been one of those guys that's a slow burner, that takes time to adjust to a relationship and unfortunately due to the time constraints of this show wasn't able to develop a connection with Sam as quick as Sasha and Michael. Maybe if they had more dates and he  got more comfortable with her they might have had an amazing connection. Who knows? 

BUT - I'm loving Sasha! What a great guy. He must be pretty committed to jump out of an airplane for her. And when he looked after her and made her all cosy under the blanket. Swoon! As much as all these dates are fun is it so important to know that someone has your back when the chips are down and are willing to show their soft nurturing side when you need it. Big points to Sasha! And it think it really impressed Sam as well. IMO she's definitely looking for a guy that has a protective side.

I still like Michael but felt like some of his lines were a bit rehearsed especially at the aquarium. 

I actually believe that he is very genuine about her so maybe he's been thinking about what he wants to say before the date and that's why it sounds rehearsed. Not sure?