Becca Tilly - Bachelor 20 - *Sleuthing - Spoilers*

^^^ I agree, I think Ben uses excuses with girls because he doesn't want hurt their feelings, hence the reason Tenley and him were still texting RIGHT up until filming "as friends". Guarantee SHE was initiating all of the texting, and he's responding to be nice. But IDK IMO, him telling her to not go on the show is pretty out right obvious.

All these girls need to watch He's Just Not that Into You.

Sometimes I feel like it's made to seem that Becca is a special snowflake and she is the only one going on this season who is a good person and deserving of happiness. I'm sure there will be plenty of girls on the season who are just as great as people and deserve just as much happiness. I just hope Ben picks the woman that's the best for him and doesn't feel any unnecessary pressure from TPTB to pick Becca or even pressure from Becca herself since she seems quite set on getting Ben if this new information is true. Personally, I'm hopeful there is at least one girl this season that knocks Ben's socks off who is even better than Becca.

All JMO.

And it's not obvious that I don't care for Becca is it?

loveactually9 wrote:RJ, Becca is definitely aiming high with Ben

I agree, but she deserves to set her standards high.

Personally, I would like to think we all are special snowflakes. Some of us maybe melting, some more salty or sweet, some pristine, some jagged and some more symmetrical than others, but so what.

Kashathediva wrote:Personally, I would like to think we all are special snowflakes. Some of us maybe melting, some more salty or sweet, some pristine, some jagged and some more symmetrical than others, but so what.

While I agree that we are all individuals and that's a good, it's sometimes annoying when it's made to seem that some are just extra special and deserves all these benefits/happiness/etc. while others deserve less because they are somehow not as special.

eversotrue wrote:

rhondam wrote:

eversotrue wrote:Does it matter? Sleuthing and info we get all helps in the long run. Who cares where it came from and if it's right or not or whatever else. It's still more to "play" with. Bring it ALL on IMO! I like a mind game challenge! You don't have to believe every little thing that's said, but don't bite the hand that feeds you. Otherwise we're on our own. And personally, I like a good team effort.

I appreciate differing opinions and points of view but as far as factual information goes, I personally would rather have no information than wrong information every time irregardless of the source!!

We haven't gotten wrong information though. Just changing ones. And we were always told when they changed. I'd rather have information than sitting like a bump on a log trying to put pieces together based on absolutely nothing. That's just me though.

IA with both of these posts. All info is welcome, so we can sleuth it. Wrong info is confusing and posts take off with wrong info. My problem is when IMO is not used, it comes across as fact, then I get confused, do we know it's for real, did I miss something, or is it an opinion. That makes a world of difference to me.

Seems like Becca ignored her family's requests for her to stay off the show? But they're the only ones who really care about her. Kaitlyn & Shawn are the last people she should be listening to. Not because they want her to fail. I'm sure they'd love a match here. But because they don't know her as well as her family does. And apparently, they weren't thinking of Ben, either. Knowing how much of a hassle Nick was to Shawn, I'm kind of surprised at the hypocrisy of it. And it's kind of scary how naive Becca still is if this is all true.

umngirl wrote:

Kashathediva wrote:Personally, I would like to think we all are special snowflakes. Some of us maybe melting, some more salty or sweet, some pristine, some jagged and some more symmetrical than others, but so what.

While I agree that we are all individuals and that's a good, it's sometimes annoying when it's made to seem that some are just extra special and deserves all these benefits/happiness/etc. while others deserve less because they are somehow not as special.

IMO it should be an even playing field.

eversotrue wrote:

rhondam wrote:

eversotrue wrote:Does it matter? Sleuthing and info we get all helps in the long run. Who cares where it came from and if it's right or not or whatever else. It's still more to "play" with. Bring it ALL on IMO! I like a mind game challenge! You don't have to believe every little thing that's said, but don't bite the hand that feeds you. Otherwise we're on our own. And personally, I like a good team effort.

I appreciate differing opinions and points of view but as far as factual information goes, I personally would rather have no information than wrong information every time irregardless of the source!!

We haven't gotten wrong information though. Just changing ones. And we were always told when they changed. I'd rather have information than sitting like a bump on a log trying to put pieces together based on absolutely nothing. That's just me though.

I guess we disagree on the validity of the information. I am not saying RJ or RS are fabricating the info but I am saying that the source they received the information from could either be mistaken or lying. IMO there is a hole in the big picture that I am looking at and therefore cannot help but feel something is off or not adding up.

umngirl wrote:Sometimes I feel like it's made to seem that Becca is a special snowflake and she is the only one going on this season who is a good person and deserving of happiness. I'm sure there will be plenty of girls on the season who are just as great as people and deserve just as much happiness. I just hope Ben picks the woman that's the best for him and doesn't feel any unnecessary pressure from TPTB to pick Becca or even pressure from Becca herself since she seems quite set on getting Ben if this new information is true. Personally, I'm hopeful there is at least one girl this season that knocks Ben's socks off who is even better than Becca.

All JMO.

And it's not obvious that I don't care for Becca is it?

This is why I wish we knew more of the other girls right now. I'm hoping he has stronger connections elsewhere.

Just gotta say AAL, I've like a bunch of your posts. I'm in total agreeement. Thanks for the summary on the sleuthing. I'll just wait to see how it all plays out.

rhondam wrote:

I guess we disagree on the validity of the information. I am not saying RJ or RS are fabricating the info but I am saying that the source they received the information from could either be mistaken or lying. IMO there is a hole in the big picture that I am looking at and therefore cannot help but feel something is off or not adding up.

That's exactly how I feel!!

IMO something just doesn't add up. The source could be intentionally giving out false info or even unintentionally. I don't like RS cause he's too cocky and arrogant for my taste. I have no issue with RJ and don't think he/she is lying in any shape or form, just that the source may be.