Becca Tilly - Bachelor 20 - *Sleuthing - Spoilers*

Kashathediva wrote:I tend to think there are members here that know more about the situation than RS. JMOAA

I have no clue who he's been talking to considering some of the things that he's said about Becca, but I can guarantee that I have many more sources who are closer to Becca than he does. It's no contest. Just take the column where he confirmed Becca. 95% of what he wrote about her I had posted on here/PM'd people, and in much greater detail. I'm not saying that he's lying regarding what he has said about her being there because she has ulterior motives, but I haven't heard anything close to that and I have no clue where he got stuff like that from.

I don't think she has ulterior motives anymore than anyone else on the show. I do then she really wanted to meet Ben this time, but I think she enjoys the perks too. I don't think RS has insider info about her motives, I think it's his opinion/observation.

KatCAli90 wrote:I don't think she has ulterior motives anymore than anyone else on the show. I do then she really wanted to meet Ben this time, but I think  she enjoys the perks too. I don't think RS has insider info about her motives, I think it's his opinion/observation.

RS comes off as if 90% of the reason she went on is to promote herself and build her fanbase. That isn't the case. He acts like it's fact and that dozens of insiders have told him that. That is what ticks me off. He doesn't even know her. She's going to be crushed when she gets eliminated, and if she makes it close to hometowns or is eliminated during the final 4, there's a pretty good chance she'll cry...this time on camera. I know for a fact that if the Bachelor were anyone else, she wouldn't have gone back on. I can tell you that it would have eaten away at her if she didn't take the chance to meet him and he got engaged.

RJ - thanks for all the information you've provided! We all really appreciate it and value the insider info you can give us.

In regards to RS, this is what he said:

Not to mention Becca reaching out to CALIA – Carrie Underwood’s athletic apparel line – during fashion week asking for clothes for a show she was going on. So yeah, if you see Becca in CALIA clothing, just know it was given to her for her to promote. See, that’s what the show has come to now. Sure, Becca wants to meet Ben, but she’s no different than anyone else who goes on just looking for a vacation and to peddle product. So it’s really hard to take anyone like this seriously when you know they have ulterior motives. Hence the reason the show is so easy to make fun of.

I really liked Becca and rooted for her last season, but I think RS is spot on with this. Of course, she wants to meet Ben - he's a hot, young, successful guy that has the same values as her. Heck, if I could pull some strings to date Ben, I would do it! Guys like Ben don't come along often. I still don't think this is a Nick/Kaitlyn situation, where he was already falling for her because he actually knew her. I could buy that Nick would have been devastated if he didn't go on the show. Becca only knows "TV Ben", an edited, idealized version of who he really is. The feelings that she has for him pre-show were superficial and not based on anything real. And, if it was just about love, she wouldn't have contacted CALIA and she wouldn't have gone on a fast to look good for TV. I don't 'think it makes her a bad person and I definitely don't think promoting herself/getting opportunities is her primary reason, I definitely it had a lot to do with it. As it does with 99% of the contestants that go on. I don't have a problem with it and I don't think that RS is singling her out - I think he's just saying, she's like everyone else.

(jmo)

I'm still wondering what Becca was trying to accomplish with Jared. I guess at that time she didn't know if dating Ben would be in cards but she was still in the process of getting a slot on his season.

I agree that she has only seen TV Ben, which we know is edited. I also think she could have been heavily influenced by her good friend Kaitlyn who I would think would love the idea of her good friend and Shawn's good friend together as a couple! So my thought is that Becca liked what she saw and really liked what she heard about Ben from Kaitlyn.

I agree completely with RS also. I'd like to give Becca a little more credit than to say she'd be heartbroken and devastated if Ben was to get engaged to someone else without her going on the show. She didn't even know the guy. All she knew was a great TV edit that the producers wanted us to see of their future bachelor. Just IMO of course. I also think it's weird she was talking to Jared if she's such good friends with Ashley I. I mean he clearly has no interest in her (Ashley I) but isn't that friend code?

I wonder what would have happened if Becca met/hung out with Ben like Tenley did, would the result have been different? Would Ben still be the Bachelor ....I think so... Guess we'll all see soon

Just want to thank RJ for sharing the info she/he has with all of us. It is very appreciated!!

IMO, Ben and Becca will hit it off and have a good time and friendship from this experience.  As far as falling in love, it obviously depends on their chemistry together.  We have had posters here who know Ben say what a good guy he is and same for Becca, so regardless of the edit, these are two good people having a chance to meet each other.  Becca needed to know in person if that chemistry existed and took a chance -- not unlike other returnee's.  It is a win-win situation for both of them, IMO.  

MiniDiva wrote:IMO, Ben and Becca will hit it off and have a good time and friendship from this experience.  As far as falling in love, it obviously depends on their chemistry together.  We have had posters here who know Ben say what a good guy he is and same for Becca, so regardless of the edit, these are two good people having a chance to meet each other.  Becca needed to know in person if that chemistry existed and took a chance -- not unlike other returnee's.  It is a win-win situation for both of them, IMO.  

I completely agree! It all comes down to chemistry and his chemistry with the other girls. I just keep my fingers crossed that he and Becca have the best chemistry!

I'm guessing that Becca's family wasn't really crazy about the idea of her doing the show again, so if she isn't F1, and particularly if she really gets heartbroken (or a bad edit), they will view it as a waste (and an "I told you so" moment?).

I don't doubt that Becca feels that Ben would be a better real world match for her than Chris was, and that she could possibly fall in love with him even within the confines of this show, and even though she didn't fall in love with Chris (and I'm sure she was emotional and sad after he "dumped her"; the Bachelor Bubble is a breeding ground for manipulating your emotions and hyper-exaggerating the importance/depth of whatever it is you're feeling). It does seem somewhat odd to imagine someone "falling in love" (put in quotes because who knows how real it is) for the very first time on this warped show though, doesn't it? And I agree that the reality is more about what happens AFTER the premature engagement (which really only signifies, or should, that the couple is committed to dating exclusively while they get to know each other) than it is about going through with the expected script.