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Post by AllAboutLove Tue 14 Jul 2015 - 3:54

CH/CM is wanting to get Nick and Shawn confronting each other in the hot seat on ATFR.

Harrison: It'll be interesting what we do at "After the Final Rose" because we've never had such a contentious relationship between the final two. So, I want to get them on the stage together. They really dislike each other and that's never going to change, especially because one of them will end up with Kaitlyn and the other will be the loser. So, that'll only increase the animosity and who knows what will be said. AFR is going to be wild.

http://www.tvguide.com/news/the-bachelorette-chris-harrison-ben/

I hope both guys just say no!

And CH/CM saying one will be with Kaitlyn and the other will be "the loser"? no

CM makes me ill.

ETA: The loser may be the winner this time again, imo, esp, if the relationship doesn't last anyway.
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Post by Guest Tue 14 Jul 2015 - 7:01

I thought it was interesting that Sean Lowe wrote this in his blog:

Take it from me, I’ve heard first hand from a couple of different contestants how the “winning” person feels after learning their new fiancé has slept with someone else. Not a great way to start an engagement. And each time I’ve heard the story, the bachelor/ette always admit that sex with the other guy or girl was a mistake.

Interesting. I've never actually heard a lead say that he/she regretted sex with non-F1 publicly, so I thought everyone just pretended to be cool about it. Good to know that the F1 does usually hate it. I wonder how it's going to play out in Nick/Kaitlyn. Either he was just a fun hookup or she slept with him because she was falling for him. Either way, it sucks for Shawn.


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Post by AllAboutLove Tue 14 Jul 2015 - 7:05

Once the lead has chosen someone and is out the "bubble" don't think any of them can say anything other than it was a mistake.

Reality vs Reality Television, imo.
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Post by stuckinsc Tue 14 Jul 2015 - 7:17

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Alanna wrote:Sarah, I'm a first generation U.S. kid and my relatives always comment on the puritanical nature of the U.S. Not offensively, just that it's very different. Perhaps that's why nothing shocks or surprises me and I'm enjoying Kait and am fine with everything going on.

Exactly! Then at least we are two Kaitlyn supporters, ready to ship KaitBoo! :cutesmile!:

I have been called liberal trash, so I don't think the problem is that I am oh so conservative. Rather the problem, is that I have had to counsel and hold the woman who was crying because she was r*aped and help the woman who sadly can't remember what happened to her. Somethings are not funny ever. You want to get drunk and waste your life, great your choice, do as you please. But to minimize two things as serious as drugging someone against their will and r*pe. That is disgusting. If it were two men who said that it wouldn't even be a question if it was funny. I truly hope that none of you ever have to help someone who has been violated this way, you may learn to regret how cute you found Becca and Kaitlyn to be with this.

Kashathediva wrote:IDK. I don't think most of the K scrutiny was there until we saw K in bed, K drunk, K talking about r*pe. 
I don't think I've seen Amy Schumer or Amy Poehler take on those issues playing the role of themselves. 
There is something to say about self respect regardless of sex. I would not think very highly of a man approaching the same age doing the same stuff. JMOAA.

Agree Kasha. bestbud!

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chasingpavements wrote:Honestly, I don't see that. I think that their characters can sometimes be immature and silly, but the women themselves are pretty mature, intelligent, forward-thinking, and well-spoken. I don't mind a woman who is crass, sexual, and inappropriate at time (which all three are), but I've never seen them act stupid. Well, Amy Schumer's made some pretty racist and r*pe-y jokes, but I put that more on her being a new comedian than her being immature.

I think that roofie joke was inappropriate, absolutely, as I said before. My argument was not based around that joke... Just the general attitude that people have had about her reminds me of the people treat women who are a little offbeat. I think people have a problem with her just not taking herself as seriously as other Bachelorettes, which I think is unfair.

The roofie joke was in poor taste I have to say.
I do think she is doing everything possible to keep things in her life nice and light since she is dealing with quite a bit of darkness out in public. She is always talking about how nice people are to her on Periscope and I think she has gotten perhaps a little too comfortable about what she says/does on there.
I don't feel comfortable judging someone that has undergone such scrutiny and been put through this experience. Maybe she's mot handling as well as some others, but I have to give her credit for being herself and owning it.

Sorry, she is devolving that further along it goes. They say you get the true essence of a flower or an herb when it is pressed. We are seeing Kaitlyn's true essence and IMO it is to get drunk and act injured instead of just owning who she is.

GuardianAngel wrote:If I'm watching a crass female comedian, then I expect crass jokes. If I'm watching the Bachelorette then I would like to watch a mature young lady who is looking to fall in love with her Prince Charming. She sets examples to all other young ladies looking for love. Her example is set by her behaviour, what she does in her spare time, what charity functions is she supporting, what various community activities is she attending in and around where she lives, and she's promoting positive issues for others in her age group.

I can't imagine the outcry if it were two male contestants that joked like that.

What I'm getting is a party girl who really doesn't give a load of pooh what others think of her behaviour because she's the bachelorette. She and other American or Canadian young ladies, or from any country can do what they please. It doesn't matter to me, they make their choices they have to  live with them. In the case of the Bachelorette you have an opportunity to showcase your talents, which hopefully others can benefit from.

It seems to me this is just one mega party for her paying no attention to what's expected in that role and obviously doesn't care. If she thinks it's ok to be drunk and showcase that talent, then that's her choice. Just don't try to fight off the negative comments as if you'll make them stop any time soon.

GA thank you for saying it so succinctly. Great, great post.
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Post by happygolucky Tue 14 Jul 2015 - 8:11

I agree with GA and Stuck above.

I was very supportive of Kaitlyn getting this gig and later becoming The Bette.

For one simple reason: because this is the ticket for your future career (activity).

Leading this "show" (even if you aren't TPTB) is a JOB.
Mostly is viewed as a romantic chance to meet the Mister Right ... but who are we kidding? ... Most times than not ... it doesn't end in marriage ... so you better take this opportunity to build something substantial for your future.

It's sad ... really sad ... that Kaitlyn has made these kind of choices ... which speak volumes about her, about her point of view regarding her role, her reckless attitude towards the image she conveys to the future partners (colleagues, employers, life-partner if that changes) ...

yes, it's cute "living in the moment" ... but I would expect her to take this opportunity more seriously ... and not about finding the husband ... but creating her own good-fortune.
It's sad ... because I feel like she wasted a great deal.
But then again, I shouldn't have expected much from her, since maybe she doesn't care about the future, the image and the career at all.

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Post by AllAboutLove Tue 14 Jul 2015 - 8:31

Sadly, in today's entertainment culture of Kardashians and the like, Kaitlyn still may have a future in entertainment, etc.
It seems that drama/recklessness/immaturity/etc is in and people watch it.
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Post by kimberlyg Tue 14 Jul 2015 - 9:58

I still really really like Kaitlyn, and have very few issues with her actions on and off the show overall (minus her choice of spoiled F1). But the joke with Becca was over the line, IMO.  It's one thing to joke about sexual assault in ways that draw attention to it or use it make a statement (ala the "Friday Night Lights" sketch on Inside Amy Schumer), and it's another thing to joke about it in a way that minimizes it.  Hopefully both women have received comments about the joke and they regret making it.

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Post by Alanna Tue 14 Jul 2015 - 10:07

kimberlyg wrote:I still really really like Kaitlyn, and have very few issues with her actions on and off the show overall (minus her choice of spoiled F1). But the joke with Becca was over the line, IMO.  It's one thing to joke about sexual assault in ways that draw attention to it or use it make a statement (ala the "Friday Night Lights" sketch on Inside Amy Schumer), and it's another thing to joke about it in a way that minimizes it.  Hopefully both women have received comments about the joke and they regret making it.
I can't imagine that either of them are proud of themselves for it or think it was a great idea I'm retrospect. It was such a stupid exchange and there's no way they think otherwise. Just stupid immature ish that deserves a slap on the wrist but doesn't make them horrible either to me.


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Post by julychild Tue 14 Jul 2015 - 11:16

I had the time to look at bacheloretteabc's accounts on Twitter and IG, and just noticed that they didn't post a single picture of Nick and Shawn's dates with Kaitlyn. Lot's of Ben and Kaitlyn, and they even used a pic from their 1st date to celebrate national kissing day.

Not thinking about what it means, if any, but sharing an observation.

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Post by leselihau Tue 14 Jul 2015 - 11:29

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stuckinsc wrote:Agreed, but it was his choice and he stuck around even when she showed him that he was not important to her.  I have this stupid conspiracy theory that in my mind he had to stay to the end and propose to completely have the threat of lawsuit from plane video go away.  He looks so darn happy this summer compared to last year.  He almost seems free to me. JMO.

Well if he was that afraid of a lawsuit he should have talked to a lawyer instead of thinking he could figure legal things out on his own. IMO there's a lot of reasons a good lawyer would advise a client that the show will never try to collect on that threat - based on several cases that have gone to court that clause would be found invalid and the show knows it.

That said I believe the producers wanted him to stay to the end and propose but it wasn't a threat that got him to do that - it was a (false) hope that he was going to get the girl.

Shawn was, IMO, manipulated by the producers but so was Nick - especially for the FRC.
JMHO

And if not the girl...the next lead....I firmly believe that Nick thinks that might be on the line. And I still don't believe he doesn't want it. Tears and all from the family...I think if it was offered he'd take it.

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Post by soccermom333 Tue 14 Jul 2015 - 11:36

^^^ I agree. Unfortunately. no no
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Post by isittrue Tue 14 Jul 2015 - 11:47

No I don't think he wants the gig, he wants the girl and redemption, IMO but I don't see him wanting the gig or the show wanting him for it. His SM lately points to K. The show yesterday only gave him more confidence that TPTB think K and S are doomed and he and Kait were meant to be. Jmho

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