The Bachelorette 11 - Kaitlyn Bristowe - Epi 7 Jun 29th - *Sleuthing - Spoilers*

happydays wrote:At the start of the season, I thought Shawn B was a fairly good looking guy. But he is becoming more and more unattractive to me the more we see his crazy behaviour

I have never seen the Shawn attraction and as time goes on I am liking him less and less. He is very immature and high maintenance. Not what I would be looking for in a partner.

Kashathediva wrote:

soccermom333 wrote:

SueSt wrote:
How about Nick??  Does he applaud Nick for being honest about sleeping with Andi??  Sorry, what a sanctimonious A##wipe!!

Sue, I happen to think this was a directed at Andi ;)     But...... I won't say anymore.  ;)

Wow. 
Touche' Josh. That is the most out of the box of rocks I have ever seen him! 

The two boxes of rocks taking baby steps together Wonders will never cease!

I found Shawn likeable in the beginning and I still think he has some good qualities, BUT he doesn't even know what love is. He's not in love with Kaitlyn, he's in love with being in love. It seems to be all about him and his feelings. If he loved her, then he wouldn't be stressing her out by constantly pressuring her. She did everything but spell out "No matter what my feelings are, I have a show to finish and either you hang in there until you're the last one standing, or we have no future", yet he was too focused on his own feelings to even consider what she was saying. So frustrating! What better way to find out if her actions match her words than seeing if she picks you in the end after exploring all options? He's in a rush only because he's insecure, and a relationship where you feel insecure never works. He just strikes me as super immature for his age, especially considering he was in an accident that supposedly changed his outlook on life. Not really seeing how at the moment. Or maybe he's just too unintelligent, who knows.

Still love Jared! He's a gem.

Cupcake seems a bit immature too. Not impressed with him immediately turning on Kaitlyn after being rejected, even if he was right about some things.

I think Shawn must know what love is and what it means to put her first because not only did he stay on the show, he got over Nick sex enough to propose and Kait has made it very, very clear that he's loving and supporting her through the airing now. Yeah, it wasn't a good look for him this ep, but it wasn't good for her either. Like she blogged, this isn't the couple they want to be and I don't think they are. Jmo.

Shawn is just as much of an impulsive and in the moment person as K. They both think about their own emotions first and then act without thinking about the consequences. In a way they are perfect for each other.

They're also similar in many other ways as well. As some have mentioned, they both have their own insecurities. They both loves dogs and their nephews and nieces. And both of them have seen their parents go through a divorce.

Even though there are a lot of red flags right now, I can see these two crazy kids making it work

this season is exhausting
meanwhile ITA mindless on all points minus points made about cupcake

happydays wrote:Shawn is just as much of an impulsive and in the moment person as K. They both think about their own emotions first and then act without thinking about the consequences. In a way they are perfect for each other.

They're also similar in many other ways as well. As some have mentioned, they both have their own insecurities. They both loves dogs and their nephews and nieces. And both of them have seen their parents go through a divorce.

Even though there are a lot of red flags right now, I can see these two crazy kids making it work

with all due respect I can't see how this makes for a couple that can face all the odds!! it sounds like a recipe for explosions
I still can't get my head around the fact that shawn was exploding AFTER she told him he's the one -- and this was after Nick came on... is anyone else confused by this??? shouldn't he feel reassured that she's just having to go through the motions?? I mean he can't logically think that she'd give him every date and rose!

ITA this season has me exhausted emotionally. Everyone needs a chill pill on this show.

Someone refresh my memory. I thought we were going 6-3? Did we sleuth that or was that speculation?

I know the producers are trying to drum up ratings with this new format and version of the show, being centralised around the drama more than anything. But it is really not that much fun to watch anymore. At first it was interesting, but now it is just exhausting. If it wasn't for Nick being on the show, I would have stopped watching and following after the last episode.

Just want to throw this out there regarding Shawn. I keep thinking that maybe Shawn has issues with abandonment and trust because of his mom. I always see a lot of pictures of Shawn with his dad and his sisters including during holidays, but absolutely nothing about his mom, like she doesn't exist, doesn't ever mention her. I wonder if she abandoned the family after the divorce. It's a mystery but maybe that is why he's feeling so extremely insecure on the show, besides the obvious reasons?

Well I just finished the episode, Shawn needs to calm the eff down, ASAP. The producers sure did a number on him. TPTB totally manipulated that whole situation they got into both Shawn and Kaitlyn's heads to tap into each of their insecurities:

Scenario 1 - Producer to Shawn, "hey you know how she said you were number 1 off camera well why did Nick get so much time with her, or well if you were number 1 why did Jared get the GDR you should go talk to her right now get more re-assurance.

Scenario 2 - Producer to Kailtyn - "hey kaitlyn shawn is coming up right now, we aren't sure what it is about but he isn't sure he can do this and has some really important stuff to talk about, about Nick? we aren't sure, maybe Nick told him about everything and he is going to walk"

Nick was also sh!tting bricks especially after that speech that Kaitlyn gave. His talk with her showed to me that he was genuine coming back on the show he got very nervous and upset which led him to cry and made a lot more sense to me than him being like "hey I like you and it sucked last time and now I am going to cry" like the clip initially alluded to.

It is obvious to me why Nick felt he was F1, because Shawn's story almost mirrored Nick last times:

- FIR
- Constantly re-assured
- Walking out after Joe came back from the date (reminded me of Nick when Marcus came back)
- Going to see her (Nick with Andi in Belgium)
- Nick has the ring (Josh and the bracelet)
- Shawn's confidence (really lack there of) but from the guy's perspective him thinking he is top dog

They made Shawn's story the same as Nick's story first time around to make him think Shawn was number 2.