The Bachelorette 11 - Kaitlyn Bristowe - Epi 7 Jun 29th - *Sleuthing - Spoilers*

GuardianAngel wrote:

jojo47 wrote:In case anyone is interested, this is what Ben said to Kaitlyn in the preview:

Let me start with last week. We had a date that I thought went really well. I was on a high from that. Then we get to the cocktail party & it doesn't go well. Shawn & I are both upset. And that night you sneak down & it was really great to see you... the night went on & I think you came down with the best intentions, I have no doubt about that. But what happens is I get up & it's time to go to the airport. I shower & I come back into the room & I feel like the vibe is different. Something happened while I was gone in the shower, I didn't know exactly what & I knew Shawn was happier. Him & I have not talked about it since. I have not brought it up to anybody, but something's happened there. I know that. I don't want to know details, I just want to know that if we're going to continue & if I'm going to be here, that this isn't just me spinning my wheels.

Thanks jojo for bringing this forward. It's a big help to be able to read it several times.

I get the vibe that Ben is choosing his words very carefully. "But what happens is" as if he's telling a story that she wasn't involved in.

"I shower and come back into the room". What room? It sounds like she was there all night, and at some point he went to bed/sleep and woke up to shower to get ready to leave and S and K were still awake. Am I reading that right?

IMO Ben knows at this point he is spinning his wheels and is going to ride it out.

Sorry if this has been discussed. I just caught up several pages, and have not retained what I read 5 minutes ago!

onepromise wrote:I appreciate Ben's approach because he is sincerely questioning Kaitlyn, but he is not accusing her. He is trying to put out there what he saw and get her feedback as it pertains to their relationship. He is not focusing on what he thinks may have happened between Shawn and Kaitlyn, but seeking to understand how it would affect his relationship with Kaitlyn in a respectful way. I really like Ben. Each week he is growing on me more and more. Real stand up guy, IMO.

I think that his edit is attempting to draw Shawn and Nick fans to a united place where they can all root for Ben as the bachelor next season. Can't wait!

GuardianAngel wrote:

jojo47 wrote:In case anyone is interested, this is what Ben said to Kaitlyn in the preview:

Let me start with last week. We had a date that I thought went really well. I was on a high from that. Then we get to the cocktail party & it doesn't go well. Shawn & I are both upset. And that night you sneak down & it was really great to see you... the night went on & I think you came down with the best intentions, I have no doubt about that. But what happens is I get up & it's time to go to the airport. I shower & I come back into the room & I feel like the vibe is different. Something happened while I was gone in the shower, I didn't know exactly what & I knew Shawn was happier. Him & I have not talked about it since. I have not brought it up to anybody, but something's happened there. I know that. I don't want to know details, I just want to know that if we're going to continue & if I'm going to be here, that this isn't just me spinning my wheels.

Thanks jojo for bringing this forward. It's a big help to be able to read it several times.

I get the vibe that Ben is choosing his words very carefully. "But what happens is" as if he's telling a story that she wasn't involved in.

"I shower and come back into the room". What room? It sounds like she was there all night, and at some point he went to bed/sleep and woke up to shower to get ready to leave and S and K were still awake. Am I reading that right?

IMO Ben knows at this point he is spinning his wheels and is going to ride it out.

Sorry if this has been discussed. I just caught up several pages, and have not retained what I read 5 minutes ago!

AllAboutLove wrote:Maybe whatever Ben H talks to Kaitlyn about... he says he doesn't want to hear details... so Kaitlyn doesn't tell him anything other than I want you to stay.

But Shawn hears that Ben talked to K so he later goes to confront her about another "mistake" mentioned in the summary? Maybe we will find out Nick is not the only one. That will be craziness.

ETA: Thinking while Ben is in the shower and he said he didn't want details about Shawn and K may be similar to a certain president in the 90's who had to clarify what sex really meant. This show has really gone sleaze-tastic on us all. Help me now if it gets worse.

OnePromise wrote:

GuardianAngel wrote:Thanks jojo for bringing this forward. It's a big help to be able to read it several times.

I get the vibe that Ben is choosing his words very carefully. "But what happens is" as if he's telling a story that she wasn't involved in.

"I shower and come back into the room". What room? It sounds like she was there all night, and at some point he went to bed/sleep and woke up to shower to get ready to leave and S and K were still awake. Am I reading that right?

IMO Ben knows at this point he is spinning his wheels and is going to ride it out.

Sorry if this has been discussed. I just caught up several pages, and have not retained what I read 5 minutes ago!

Yes GA.  I appreciate Ben's approach because he is sincerely questioning Kaitlyn, but he is not accusing her.  He is trying to put out there what he saw and get her feedback as it pertains to their relationship. **snipped**

mprssdbyu wrote:Okay so when she's talking to CH and says he had sex is she talking about S? Now who does the too far too fast apply to?

GuardianAngel wrote:I don't think it was a saved video. K's hair was very dark and we know she went darker with her hair colour not long before that. Shawn's beard was long and along with his hair, IMO very dark. That may have been lighting, or I think it was wash off colour.