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Post by BlackHalo Wed Jun 17, 2015 4:14 pm

They were in the process of falling in love? Dude just got there a week ago. Rolling Eyes

Good luck Kaitlyn & Shawn. You're gonna need it.

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Post by DMBFan Wed Jun 17, 2015 4:14 pm

Alanna wrote:Ok so I guess we know what's refreshing.

Kaitlyn rejected Nick, choosing to be alone, thinking that Shawn will dump her because he cannot get over sexgate.

Instead, tptb dragged brainwashed Reek/Shawn (for you Game of Thrones fans) out there and forced him to get engaged to her anyway.

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Post by AllAboutLove Wed Jun 17, 2015 4:16 pm

emusha wrote:oh WOW!! now that's a real shocker to me was not at all expecting that... interesting the language they used for the eonline article -- they're making it sound like it was all in the process of falling in love and not as a spur of the moment thing...

Hmmm so now I'm starting to wonder if K really was feeling that strongly for nick during these weeks for her to risk bringing him on or risk putting all her other relationships at risk or if all the language about falling in love is really other tptb's point of view

No wonder Shawn is livid...I can't believe he got over that though?? this is very confusing
Imo, I think that Shawn was projecting a lot of his feelings about Kaitlyn keeping Nick onto Nick himself (thus calling him the "other guy"). He told Kaitlyn "I thought you were smarter than that". Yes he corrected himself but he still said it/felt it.
And by calling Nick "the other guy" Shawn was essentially in denial. As if not using Nick's a name will make Nick less real.
That to me is someone that is not so much concerned with the tabloid version of Nick but a guy who is concerned with the girl he is in love with wanting another guy enough to bring him on 4 weeks in. It could have been any guy. The problem is it is the only guy that Shawn sees as a real threat.
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Post by Cecilia Wed Jun 17, 2015 4:17 pm

Beagle wrote:
Cecilia wrote:^ I agree that the storyline is most similar to Des season.  Although Chris seems like such a no frills, no drama, reasonable person and just seems the opposite of Shawn.  I'm not saying Shawn is unreasonable, just a bit dramatic.  As is Nick.  Both are drama queens.

But Des never had sex with Brooks, did she?

On another note, I'm in shock that E online didn't berate Nick yet one more time. I thought they were pretty fair with his side of the story. That is usually not the case with E, although it wasn't Kristin writing the article, maybe that's why.

To the bolded.  That doesn't matter to me.  Des said she closed her heart off because she was in love with Brooks.  I don't think that's less worse than Kaitlyn having sex with Nick and then picking Shawn while on this dating show.  But I don't have a problem with Kaitlyn (or any adult women for that matter) having sex with someone she is dating.  I will admit that it is odd to sleep with three different people in one week.  But it is the unique nature of this show and it happens almost every season with some exceptions. They are all told to treat each relationship separately.

One other thing is that I think Nick and Kaitlyn had been day (and night) drinking (as one can do in Dublin) and this caused any inhibitions to go out the window.
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Post by isittrue Wed Jun 17, 2015 4:17 pm

I realize that lots of F1's have had to overcome the lead having sex in the FS. The unfortunate thing about this is that is earlier than FS, it is so soon after her I am falling for you date with Shawn and that it is with Nick, whom Shawn already dislikes. That is tough and hopefully they really did talk it through and Shawn is able to deal with it the way he chooses to. So far, things appeared to have been working but Monday's viewing won't be easy and I suspect they will probably have discussion after it airs, assuming he watches.

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Post by ironcat Wed Jun 17, 2015 4:22 pm

When they talked it through, do you think that included Kaitlyn telling Shawn that she'd probably have sex again with Nick in the FS?  I kind of can't imagine Nick proposing if Kaitlyn told him in the FS that she wasn't interested in a repeat performance.  That's a BIG tipoff he's not "the one" that he would've picked up on.

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Post by emusha Wed Jun 17, 2015 4:22 pm

I mean..... she did this literally a few days after Shawn interrogated her about her action not matching her words...if she cares about shawn that much..... I don't know yall -- as a woman this kind of behavior makes NO sense to me. she's putting shawn and her's relationship in jeopardy by doing exactly what he accused her of doing ; not matching her words with her actions!! what????? Suspect if shawn is F1 at this point in the filming it does not at all compute....

she doesn't need to have sex with Nick to sus him out as a potential partner... I am baffled.

On the other hand -- unrelated -- but people AND edits and media seem to be softening on nick...thought it was gonna get intense with nick-hate but not at all so far... very interesting -- maybe the edit showing him in a non-villain light is having impact? no idea can those who are not pro-nick say if their opinions have changed recently?
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Post by AllAboutLove Wed Jun 17, 2015 4:23 pm

Kaitlyn has said to the guys that she compartmentalizes her relationships with each guy so that she is in the moment with each of them. Given this, it is not a stretch that she would view sex or a relationship as separate and thus as not a big deal.

However, not so sure the guys would view it the same way and perhaps that is why she is crying.

First time she said "you're making me cry" was to Shawn when he told her to her face that "your words don't match your actions."
This may just be the theme we see.
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Post by Alanna Wed Jun 17, 2015 4:25 pm

Emusha, I think the same. Sorry, Kaitlyn, but RUN Shawn. Take your hot manly man self and go reenact the Notebook with a girl who isn't totally off her rocker.


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Post by happygolucky Wed Jun 17, 2015 4:26 pm

After all this sex talk I might just volunteer to have sex with Nick myself, to see if his actions match both outcomes. Just sayin'


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Post by Cecilia Wed Jun 17, 2015 4:27 pm

Gosh. Am I really the only one defending Kaitlyn on here? How did that happen? giggling
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Post by isittrue Wed Jun 17, 2015 4:27 pm

ironcat wrote:When they talked it through, do you think that included Kaitlyn telling Shawn that she'd probably have sex again with Nick in the FS?  I kind of can't imagine Nick proposing if Kaitlyn told him in the FS that she wasn't interested in a repeat performance.  That's a BIG tipoff he's not "the one" that he would've picked up on.

Yeah, I agree. She probably told Shawn after the FS date with Nick so he was prepared it was not only a one-time deal. Can you imagine having to fess up twice.

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