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Post by Kiki_P Sun Jun 14, 2015 12:21 pm

jlccaz wrote:Importantly to me, Jess is represented by an attorney (not necessary for order of protection) -- his name is the notary public.  He specializes in divorce and family law, as well as some labor and employment.  He is a local Queens guy (critical for relationship to judges, who are elected in NYS), and has experience in high profile divorce.  http://nypost.com/2015/04/03/former-trainers-ex-wife-throws-curve-into-clemens-settlement/

So, this by itself brings a certain credibility and orderliness to the steps.  This means that whatever went down online and offline between the two of them after the Decision Day until the last day they cohabited (probably not long thereafter), and thereafter online or in texts and phone calls, etc. was probably well recorded and preserved with an eye toward (a) annulment grounds, not merely divorce, and (b) personal safety.

Personally, it does seem credible as well that the same body of evidence was sufficient to (perhaps) persuade Production and Network that she needed personal escort by private security.

That showing alone would be fairly persuasive to a judge ("I am married to this person because of a television show contract.  I was deceived.  He is verbally abusive, as captured on tape, and it escalated thereafter."  Given the bias toward protection, that seems an easy case.

It is also possible that the divorce papers were filed simultaneously.  The fact that June 11 was six months to the day or nearly that is revealing of a coherent strategy.

#WomenSupportingWomen and all that.

This lawyer has the network in an awkward place.

Divorce is public.  Even if this family court stuff is not.

And (UNLIKE Survivor, etc.) regardless of a contract and confidentiality agreement and promises to arbitrate, this mess has to be sorted out legally in front of judges.

So, this creates the opportunity to tell a full story, in court, without fear of libel/slander/defamation (statements made in good faith in a legal pleading are not actionable as defamation etc.).  And that ladies and gentlemen, is what I would call Leverage.  

For all I know she is inventing his abusiveness, and "drug use" or dealing.  My only point is that once he gave them that footage of a complete crazy person, Jess fell into the proverbial tub of butter, in terms of having some leverage to get out of the Experiment on her terms.

Jessica has all the makings of a Payout here, just my opinion.  (well done, "experts")

Maybe all the girls have the same lawyer, LOL.  They got a group rate.

This show shocks the conscience if you step back.

Come on people, lurking and reading from other boards -- you have to admit it is the Ultimate New York Story!!  All the boroughs are represented, and even a Jersey side plot, and there are laundromats and Jersey gay bowling leagues, allegations of gangs and closeted homosexuality, drug use, a Momma's Boy that lives in the basement and won't sleep away from home, a Puerto Rican scrapping beauty, a Southeast Asian Upper East side "diva" ... how could you make it up!  It's a Broadway musical for crying out loud.  

And Dr. Cilona can play the Joel Gray part "Wilkommen, Bienvenue Welcome!" and all that!

And there is even the Jeering Internet Crowd, like Roman citizens watching gladiators, or like the mirror at the end of Cabaret ... yes indeed, in the end this Greek tragedy is maybe more about the audience -- gullible, skeptical, angry, supportive, naive, romantic, whatever, but without them, this play would not exist.

Hang on ... I'm going to go file for some copyrights on the lyrics.  Hahahaha.

I agree with you that Jess is certainly set up for a payout and/or a tell all. I noticed the attorney that notarized the paperwork has an office by the Empire State Building. LOL I do want to note that Family Court judges are appointed not elected in NYC.

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Post by BusyLizzie Sun Jun 14, 2015 12:30 pm

Hi, I'm a long time lurker. I didn't see anyone mention this, so I thought I'd ask. Could the fact that the first season couples are worried about the paycheck, more than a person who is in danger of harm? It could be clouding their view on all of this.
I'm so worried about Jessica, I believe she's in real danger.

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Post by mom22boys Sun Jun 14, 2015 12:54 pm

BusyLizzie wrote:Hi, I'm a long time lurker. I didn't see anyone mention this, so I thought I'd ask.  Could the fact that the first season couples are worried about the paycheck, more than a person who is in danger of harm?  It could be clouding their view on all of this.
I'm so worried about Jessica, I believe she's in real danger.  
:Welcome  BusyLizze! 

I think you have a really great point. I wouldn't have thought that at first but now I believe it. Especially since Jason is defending Ryan D and Sean.  We already know that production is more concerned with the show itself than they are the participants. If what NYC LAX says is true (and I believe every word) than they basically bribed Jessica. If she didn't file a RO than they would let her get an annulment. That, to me, speaks volumes. These women were nothing more than tools for this production.
I really believe Jess could be in great danger. Ryan's posts confirmed he has gone off on the deep end. Especially mentioning the "First 48" which is another A&E show about murder.
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Post by Kiki_P Sun Jun 14, 2015 12:56 pm

BusyLizzie wrote:Hi, I'm a long time lurker. I didn't see anyone mention this, so I thought I'd ask.  Could the fact that the first season couples are worried about the paycheck, more than a person who is in danger of harm?  It could be clouding their view on all of this.
I'm so worried about Jessica, I believe she's in real danger.  

I think you have a valid point here Lizzie.

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Post by Guest Sun Jun 14, 2015 1:03 pm

ONG this is getting more awful by the minute. Lets all say a prayer in our hearts that Jessica remain safe and that no harm comes to her.

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Post by KB_Mom Sun Jun 14, 2015 1:05 pm

Don't know what MAFS contract says and how much power they have over season 1 contestants, but I see a parallel between the Bach producers drafting Cupcake and Whit to help with damage control after snap chat gate, and season one success story couples being enlisted or "encouraged" to post on SM in an attempt at damage control.


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Post by jlccaz Sun Jun 14, 2015 1:12 pm

They are filming a MAFS 2Year show, so they are contracted parties, at a minimum. And who knows how much of what went on has been shared among the seasons and the casts. Paid puppets in terms of what they post publicly would certainly be my working assumption.
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Post by nan27 Sun Jun 14, 2015 1:16 pm

ellaminte wrote:Are they planning on doing a follow up with season 1 contestants...? Imagine on with season 2 a year from now..wow..laugh out loud. I'm also suprised no one has mentioned anything about this all being fake. I highly doubt that it is but they did pursue acting before all this..
It's called "money" and "confidentiality" contracts. Think of this show--both seasons--as fictional soap opera shows. Even the couples on Season One are being paid a substantial amount to stay married and do additional filming, etc. I think of it as an acting gig for these people. To me, Jason and Courtney seem as close to being a "real" couple as any of the people who are left standing. Also, the person that I actually like the best is Jaclyn. That's ironic because the editing in the beginning made me dislike her for criticizing Ryan's looks. It's amazing how the editing and producers can manipulate the way that you view these participants/actors/whatever you want to call them.
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Post by razielle Sun Jun 14, 2015 1:17 pm

I find it interesting that Tito's is sponsoring the gay bowling event that Sean participates in this year. Does anyone know if they have been a sponsor in past years?

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Post by jlccaz Sun Jun 14, 2015 1:28 pm

https://twitter.com/FelicitousFoe/status/610101371287830529

Davina today attacks Jason Carrion for siding against Jess. (private account tweet, I think? Viewable at link above)

At what point does a Grown-Up intervene and bring some order to this chaos. The producers and networks must be so excited about Tuesday ratings and social media buzz metrics?
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Post by GuardianAngel Sun Jun 14, 2015 1:30 pm

Unbelievable. And we get blamed for this? laugh out loud


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Post by nan27 Sun Jun 14, 2015 1:35 pm

BusyLizzie wrote:Hi, I'm a long time lurker. I didn't see anyone mention this, so I thought I'd ask.  Could the fact that the first season couples are worried about the paycheck, more than a person who is in danger of harm?  It could be clouding their view on all of this.
I'm so worried about Jessica, I believe she's in real danger.  
My thoughts as well. The first cast of characters have chosen to remain under contract and are being paid. I wonder if they were surprised at the success of this show and didn't think that there would be a second season. The producers decided to throw together a second season while they still had the interest of the audience, and they did it in a haphazard way. I just wonder why they didn't just take an entire vetted cast from the rejects of the first season?? I read that Jessica applied the first season but was not accepted. So, she was vetted. Others must have been, too. I also fear for Jessica. I was shocked at the outburst that were televised of Ryan. I lived with an abuser many years ago; and Ryan's behavior scared me. I never saw Jess as abusive (as another poster mentioned). I can tell you that I would be posting all over social media to leave footprints just in case something happened to me. It would point right to the most likely suspect! I am now wondering, since this thing is blowing up in their faces, if the producers will try to quickly edit the final episodes. I wouldn't be surprised if they did. There's still time to give Jaclyn and Ryan a big payout for pretending to still be together!


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