Kaitlyn Bristowe - Shawn Booth - Bachelorette 11 - *Spoilers - Sleuthing* - Discussion

Alanna wrote:

GuardianAngel wrote:I really enjoyed catching up the last two pages. Everyone!

peggy0221 wrote:I wish them well, but I still see a Des/Brooks kind of relationship, only this "Brooks" seems to reciprocate. It's hard to compare to Jash relationship I think, because they have physical chemistry, as well as mental connection!

JP is Ashley's rock throughout the journey, but Shawn only shakes the ground. And I'm still yet to see their mental connection to say they are a great match.

IA peggy. Whether that's the edit they are trying to show us or not. I'd rather see a F1 more secure in his feelings for the lead. I suppose it's only natural to feel a little jealousy but in this type of setting, he should IMO be more understanding of her role and throw in some support as well.

I think once this is all said and done, he will probably not have any issues in that department, I hope.

I don't know how this could not be the case with her interviews unless she's just totally crazed delusional? She freely talks about her sexcapades and doesn't regret the sex while filming. So either he's normal and secure and she's not afraid of rocking the boat talking like this, or she's just totally stupid and not reading the room? Or rather not stupid, but totally fine if he breaks-up with her now and doesn't care. I have no idea.

I'm thinking Kaitlin enjoys Shawn's emoting and passionate side. She must be flattered with his level of intensity. And just as I believe this might tickle K's fancy, Shawn might enjoy the challenge of her being an independent woman and a "always one foot slightly out the door" type. It keeps him on his toes. It's what keeps many a man hooked.

If he takes the "I got the girl" attitude then all should be well.

Maybe Lucas or any other males, can shed some light on this. How would a guy feel listening to his girl talk about not regretting having sex with someone else, or discussing it openly when it involves someone else? Unless she's convinced him that is what she is forced to say, and really regrets the whole situation, maybe twice.

We know how Shawn feels, he hates the other guy. Is that the other guys fault? She was just as much a part of it. That's my only beef with S, right now, what I see on my TV. I'm looking forward to seeing him post show and hope that he can respond to the questions in a confident manner not dissing the other guy/s just because it's a guy thing that perhaps makes him look bad? IDK.

GuardianAngel wrote:I really enjoyed catching up the last two pages. Everyone!

peggy0221 wrote:I wish them well, but I still see a Des/Brooks kind of relationship, only this "Brooks" seems to reciprocate. It's hard to compare to Jash relationship I think, because they have physical chemistry, as well as mental connection!

JP is Ashley's rock throughout the journey, but Shawn only shakes the ground. And I'm still yet to see their mental connection to say they are a great match.

IA peggy. Whether that's the edit they are trying to show us or not. I'd rather see a F1 more secure in his feelings for the lead. I suppose it's only natural to feel a little jealousy but in this type of setting, he should IMO be more understanding of her role and throw in some support as well.

I think once this is all said and done, he will probably not have any issues in that department, I hope.

GuardianAngel wrote:If he takes the "I got the girl" attitude then all should be well.

Maybe Lucas or any other males, can shed some light on this. How would a guy feel listening to his girl talk about not regretting having sex with someone else, or discussing it openly when it involves someone else? Unless she's convinced him that is what she is forced to say, and really regrets the whole situation, maybe twice.

We know how Shawn feels, he hates the other guy. Is that the other guys fault? She was just as much a part of it. That's my only beef with S, right now, what I see on my TV. I'm looking forward to seeing him post show and hope that he can respond to the questions in a confident manner not dissing the other guy/s just because it's a guy thing that perhaps makes him look bad? IDK.

Great posts, GA! My biggest issue with Shawn, he his not a JP. JP was Ashley's rock. The other guys gave her h***, JP accepted what she needed to do to get her to him. The only time that JP was ever less than 100% supportive was at MTP, she was either going to chose him or not. But, with Bentley coming back to talk, JP was strong and supported her. The exact opposite of how Shawn reacted to Nick coming on board.

If anything, Shawn is the one constantly causing Kaitlyn grief. The guys who leave Kaitlyn doesn't seem to care once they are gone and she lets it go, but Shawn is a constant problem letting her know constantly how unworthy and wrong she is.

Personally, I enjoyed watching Des discover that those "butterflies" are often times your subconscious telling you something was wrong and that the strong steady love is often the best.

I hope Shawn and Kaitlyn last, but where do we see Shawn compromising in this relationship? So far it is all Shawn's way. That is a recipe for disaster, real relationships that last require give and take.

Kaitlyn is happy now, so I hope it lasts. But Jilly, Ali, and Andi were all really happy right now too. So we will see.

^^^^ yes stuck we will see. I really like kaitlyn but I think she is the only one she can blame "her grief' on. Shawn is not causing it. ;)

soccermom333 wrote:^^^^ yes stuck we will see.  I really like kaitlyn but I think she is the only one she can blame "her grief' on.  Shawn is not causing it.  ;)

But what on the show, except for allowing Nick to come on has Kaitlyn done to deserve Shawn's grief? We know she had sex with Nick, but Shawn does not. So what exactly has Kaitlyn done for Shawn to give her grief for? She is the bachelorette, it was her right to let Nick on if she wanted to. And giving Jared a GDR, she needs to apologize for that? I try to remember when I am watching what the people on screen knew at that time. I find his behavior way too intense for what he knows.

I will give him a pass for being upset when he finds out that she had sex with Nick. Now if she had sex with him too as some of us believe, I understand it upsetting him, but sorry dude, you did what she did with Nick, so it isn't like she was holding off for romantic FS dates.

Right now, before any of the guys know about her sex with Nick, he is being way too upset and too harsh IMO.

We haven't seen most of Shawn's conversation with Kaitlyn after the GD so it's all speculation at the moment imo.

stuckinsc wrote:

soccermom333 wrote:^^^^ yes stuck we will see.  I really like kaitlyn but I think she is the only one she can blame "her grief' on.  Shawn is not causing it.  ;)

But what on the show, except for allowing Nick to come on has Kaitlyn done to deserve Shawn's grief?  We know she had sex with Nick, but Shawn does not.  So what exactly has Kaitlyn done for Shawn to give her grief for?  She is the bachelorette, it was her right to let Nick on if she wanted to.  And giving Jared a GDR, she needs to apologize for that?  I try to remember when I am watching what the people on screen knew at that time.  I find his behavior way too intense for what he knows.

I will give him a pass for being upset when he finds out that she had sex with Nick.  Now if she had sex with him too as some of us believe, I understand it upsetting him, but sorry dude, you did what she did with Nick, so it isn't like she was holding off for romantic FS dates.

Right now, before any of the guys know about her sex with Nick, he is being way too upset and too harsh IMO.

IA Stuck, purely because Shawn hasn't even heard yet about sexgate. Maybe he forgot to take his chill pills? Hopefully he will relax and this is not representative of who he is outside of the show/bubble. I don't expect to find that out until after the ATFR when time will tell (much like C and W) even if there are signs of cracks.

^^^ Totally agree. They both seem "over the moon" right now but time will tell. ;)

stuckinsc wrote:

soccermom333 wrote:^^^^ yes stuck we will see.  I really like kaitlyn but I think she is the only one she can blame "her grief' on.  Shawn is not causing it.  ;)

But what on the show, except for allowing Nick to come on has Kaitlyn done to deserve Shawn's grief?  We know she had sex with Nick, but Shawn does not.  So what exactly has Kaitlyn done for Shawn to give her grief for?  She is the bachelorette, it was her right to let Nick on if she wanted to.  And giving Jared a GDR, she needs to apologize for that?  I try to remember when I am watching what the people on screen knew at that time.  I find his behavior way too intense for what he knows.

I will give him a pass for being upset when he finds out that she had sex with Nick.  Now if she had sex with him too as some of us believe, I understand it upsetting him, but sorry dude, you did what she did with Nick, so it isn't like she was holding off for romantic FS dates.

Right now, before any of the guys know about her sex with Nick, he is being way too upset and too harsh IMO.

It's crazy how much of a Britt he is, from receiving the FIR and first kiss, displaying overconfidence, questioning the lead on his/her motives, and getting upset because of not receiving the validation from a group date rose.

It is weird to me that Shawn is such a fan favorite, whereas Britt was so hated after her outburst. I kind of wonder if people just love Shawn because he's not Nick or if that possessive/jealous behavior is just considered more attractive when coming from a man?

I think it is a combination of both CP.

I wonder what people would be thinking if Nick wasn't on the show and not F2? Or even if Nick was F1? People would probably think Kailtyn never chose Shawn because of his behavior similar to CS not choosing Britt once she questioned him.

Snapchatgate really made things difficult to view in a lens other than "Shawn is F1 so whatever happened on the show they are fine and happy now". If snapchat hadn't happened, I think the posts on this forum would be a lot different. jmo

I agree, Shawn seems brooding and morose to me. If they end up together, I hope they show the happy, fun loving, non-controlling Shawn that people seem to believe he is. He doesn't have an attractive edit, in fact I watched the last episode looking for a smile from him and couldn't find one. Nick and Kaitlyn smile all the time, like perma-grin. I'm sure it is editing, but Shawn must not be happy about it now. Hope it changes moving forward!

In the preview, they show Shawn saying, "Get the F out of my room" or something similar. Who do you think he is talking to?