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Post by Cecilia Fri Jul 17, 2015 2:37 pm

I don't buy that Shawn can't be supportive on SM bc TPTB won't let him. Really? That doesn't mean he's F1. Multiple other contestants have been, including the other F3.
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Post by iamreal2u Fri Jul 17, 2015 2:40 pm

I guess the question is then, are there any other F1s that were able to come out and rally before the show was over?
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Post by soccermom333 Fri Jul 17, 2015 2:41 pm

^^^ I believe shawn is being supportive in private.  ;)

I remember Ed being criticized for the same thing with Jillian.  He said   something like.."why do I need to tweet her when she is in the next room, or I can just pick up the phone."  Haha Ed!
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Post by jojo47 Fri Jul 17, 2015 3:14 pm

soccermom333 wrote:^^^ I believe shawn is being supportive in private.  ;)

I remember Ed being criticized for the same thing with Jillian.  He said   something like.."why do I need to tweet her when she is in the next room, or I can just pick up the phone."  Haha Ed!

I don't understand why the expectation is that support Shawn gives to Kaitlyn has to be public. She is standing up for herself & he doesn't necessarily have to piggyback on it. He would certainly need to provide private personal support, which I'm sure he is. Her family/friends are staying off the public platform & my guess is they are extremely supportive as well.

Ben, Nick & whomever else from this season will support via SM because that's their only outlet to do so. Not all support has to come in the same form.
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Post by AllAboutLove Fri Jul 17, 2015 3:36 pm

Alanna wrote:
Cecilia wrote:
sdmom wrote:So Kaitlyn and cyberbullying, that brings me back to a topic discussed in a different thread: why didn't we see Shawn support her publicly if sm means so much to her?

This has always bothered me.
This point keeps getting brought up so I'm genuinely curious, who in Kait's real life (not fake ex boyfriend life) publicly supports Kaitlyn in that manner- re tweeting articles she's not a $lut, etc.? I haven't seen her sister, best friends or anyone else do it. So who does it and what is expected of Shawn?
I think those who are looking at Shawn or anyone else in Kaitlyn's personal life and them not supporting her is just noting it, and that most people would want their fiance to do so, especially when the cat is out the bag anyway and those who follow SM have to work hard to keep that spoiler away since there are photos on all SM tagging Kaitlyn or the Tbette hashtag that gives it away. 

That and it wouldn't hurt for Shawn to tweet or favorite something in support against the name calling and cyberbullying in addition to what is in private. So I think that is where the question comes into play. There is that saying that silence is quiescence but it may not apply here. 

TWT anyway but it's likely just being discussed and noted because too often these things play a role in hindsight sometimes. jmo
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Post by Maggenzm Fri Jul 17, 2015 11:59 pm

Alanna wrote:One thing that gives me hope/confidence that Kait and Shawn have a good chance is that they handle their issues, albeit majorly self-created ones, pretty well and they recognize when they're not being the Kait and Shawn they'd like to be and know they can be. Just judging by how she talks about Shawn post-show, I imagine she's going to gush about how supportive he's been and how well they communicate too.

I find their relationship totally fascinating because this is so different from what I think Kait is normally like in her relationships. She seems to be used to being totally carefree, fun, easy going, happy, and when she needs some male validation, she seeks it fairly easily like asking Nick to promise his love or even talking with Nick pre show when she was insecure. It's different with Shawn though, their dynamic forces her to be genuinely open and vulnerable imo, and forces her to be serious for once. I love how she told him he's either in or out with this process when he was whining in Dublin and then totally stared him down to prove her point.

I'm really curious/excited to see their final dates and then their dynamic post show.

I am of the same opinion. No red flags at all, just confidence. I too, can't wait to see what happen post show.I am actually excited about them. JMO
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Post by Maggenzm Sat Jul 18, 2015 12:09 am

jojo47 wrote:
soccermom333 wrote:^^^ I believe shawn is being supportive in private.  ;)

I remember Ed being criticized for the same thing with Jillian.  He said   something like.."why do I need to tweet her when she is in the next room, or I can just pick up the phone."  Haha Ed!

I don't understand why the expectation is that support Shawn gives to Kaitlyn has to be public. She is standing up for herself & he doesn't necessarily have to piggyback on it. He would certainly need to provide private personal support, which I'm sure he is. Her family/friends are staying off the public platform & my guess is they are extremely supportive as well.

Ben, Nick & whomever else from this season will support via SM because that's their only outlet to do so. Not all support has to come in the same form.

Amen to that! SM support will only be for show, and he doesn't strike me as one who does things for show, he is as real and honest as they come, and I really like that about him. Besides, Kait doesn't need his support on SM, she is doing just fine from what I can see.
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Post by MVMom39forever Sat Jul 18, 2015 12:38 am

^^^yep! I just don't think SM is an accurate measure of a reality tv or any relationship good or bad as it can all be one big fat lie. From Jef and Emily to Josh and Andi plus Becca during the airing of Bachelor, how much truth was in their tweets and IG photos? They promoted an image that did not reflect reality at all.

And from the little that I have observed, I would not say production is throwing in towel on Kaitlyn and Shawn. I read that guys gave her standing ovation at MTA. That was no doubt orchestrated by tptb.

IMO this in your face with sex season didn't produce ratings and instead brought on backlash on sm. And who is to say that it's all Kaitlyn responding to or sending out tweets? She is main spokesperson and lead of ABC show.

I have to believe they are providing SM support, direction and/or monitoring. She is an ABC employee after all so she doesn't deserve all the credit or criticism for her current SM presence.
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Post by Guest Sat Jul 18, 2015 12:50 am

soccermom333 wrote:^^^ I believe shawn is being supportive in private.  ;)

I remember Ed being criticized for the same thing with Jillian.  He said   something like.."why do I need to tweet her when she is in the next room, or I can just pick up the phone."  Haha Ed!

We probably shouldn't use Ed as a paragon of behavior for F1s....

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Post by soccermom333 Sat Jul 18, 2015 1:07 am

^^^ Awww he was not popular but I loved Ed. Smiley
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Post by Guest Sat Jul 18, 2015 1:21 am

He was entertaining to watch, but it's hard to get past him cheating on Jillian, alcohol issues, and his whole sex-trip back home during filming. Whenever I think of Ed, I think of his "Bring Beer and Condoms" text, haha.

Anyways, back to topic - I'm going to wait to see Shawn/Kaitlyn at ATFR to see what I think of their relationship. I'm not going to blame Shawn for not supporting her on SM, since we don't know what rules are in place for him. I think ATFR and their interviews the day after will give me a much more accurate impression of the dynamics of their relationship.

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Post by AllAboutLove Sat Jul 18, 2015 1:44 am

soccermom333 wrote:^^^ I believe shawn is being supportive in private.  ;)

I remember Ed being criticized for the same thing with Jillian.  He said   something like.."why do I need to tweet her when she is in the next room, or I can just pick up the phone."  Haha Ed!

Well, since Ed and Jillian never lasted it's not like Ed supporting in private only can be seen as a sign that will lead one to the altar. The same can be said for the opposite but it is interesting that JP did and that worked out for them.

It's not a be and end all but b/c it's not a be and end all I do find it reasonable to think that Shawn could give support in public too. no idea

I mean, what's the worst thing that can happen if Shawn supports Kaitlyn by liking a tweet/posting a tweet against s**t shaming her? question

Snapchatgate already outted him as F1 so again, imo, he is choosing not to do so publicly for whatever reason (likely more to do with Nick, imo, than about Kaitlyn).

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