Re: The Bachelorette 11 - Kaitlyn Bristowe - Britt Nilsson - Premier May 18-19 - Thread #2 *Sleuthing - Spoilers*

[Guest]

I hope this is how the story goes, because then Kait is not the "here for fame" lead as speculated by many posters here after knowing she chose no one. And this could better explain why she rejected Nick and Shawn. She looked so into them both, how could she let them all go.

Most importantly, I find it suspicious to show us Nick this early. Isn't it more of their normal way to tease someone is coming back but not actually telling who? Therefore I think the drama may not caused by Nick, they saved the best part of the drama for last.

[AEF]

Also just coming on line and astounded. Not sure if it's been mentioned but if RS knew about Nick and Kaitlyn having sex, why didn't he say so in his spoilers or at least tease something (if he had info this big you would think he would have done so). Did he just see the preview as you did and knew he had to go out with something?

[Guest]

^ exactly!! Who are we talking about? The I-know-most-of everything RS, who hates Nick tow death. If it was Nick and knew it before tonight, he would 200% tell everyone and trashes Nick even more.

everything is not adding up, so I have my own prediction.

[pavalygurl]

I feel like Oprah, what I know for sure:
1.  Things on this show are seldom what they appear to be in the beginning.
2.  Just because RS says something doesn't mean it is so.
3.  TPTB can be especially brutal to women on these shows, especially someone like Kaitlyn who has spunk.
What I think may be true:
4.  Something is wonky about this season, whether planned or spontaneously happening in Ireland.   They were on almost complete lock down and stayed almost 3 weeks which is unusual for one location.
5.  The guys talking amongst themselves about Kaitlyn kissing the guy,
and "spying" out the window looks like it happened in San Antonio from SC we have of the RC there.
6.  I am not convinced Nick is the guy Kaitlyn is confessing about having sex with.  I agree Chris S and Shawn are other possibilities,
7.  There is a SC of who I think is Nick wearing a thermal type vest and looking like he is pulling off a mic pack as he walks away....maybe unhappily.

I need to look at the preview a bit more closely and think about this all a bit.
My favorite posts of the night were the Oprah fiancé stuff and you get some fiancé stuff and you etc. LOL. I also loved the paraphrase of Katilyn was all horned up. Good laughs!

[Guest]

Interesting to read more ealier comments.
Just curious to know why the marjority here already thought the sex guy was Nick? because RS said so?

I felt bad before the premier knowing Kait chose no one, because I kind of wondered was she really in it for fame, wondered did she really lead Shawn/Nick on too much just to dump them at the alter.

But after watching the season preview, I feel so good about Kait and this season again! She shows more layers than previous Bachelorettes, and she probably ended up single because she feels guilty about what happened.

I can't wait to see what happened in Ireland, especially what happened with Dr. C.

If my prediction is right, and if Nick really likes her, I really hope he will continue to go after her no matter what!

[officeRules]

Last night, I could not figure out why everyone thought it was Nick who had sex with Kaitlyn.  He was shown reacting to the news (although we know everything is spliced and diced.)  I didn't see anything that showed Nick near her room.  I also said I think Dr. C could be the one because he wasn't around when she made her confession (he wasn't shown in the reaction shots and he was shown crying later)

Nick is the one running naked, I think.  It is completely separate from the drama- because he is holding a golf putter.  I think someone dared him to jump in the lake and he did.

When Kaitlyn is shown letting a guy in her room- I think it is BenZ in a burgundy sweater.   I don't think he is sex guy.  I think he goes to Kaitlyn's room to tell her he is leaving.  Then she is shown in the same grey shirt on her balcony looking dissappointed.  I think that is how Ben Z exits.  He's a nice guy but can't get past the sex thing.

Last night we got a lot of good caps.  Once someone is able to upload all the pictures I am convinced we will figure a lot out.

One last thing before work--
Kaitlyn's excitement in the back hall in New York was adorable.  "Niiiick!!!!"   She looked like she couldn't  believe that he is there and I think she is completely freaked out that he is in the next room.  It is so cute, and you cannot fake that kind of a reaction.  I love that shot.
Mike Fleiss must have been peeing himself with glee.

[Alanna]

Interesting to read more ealier comments.
Just curious to know why the marjority here already thought the sex guy was Nick? because RS said so?

I felt bad before the premier knowing Kait chose no one, because I kind of wondered was she really in it for fame, wondered did she really lead Shawn/Nick on too much just to dump them at the alter.

But after watching the season preview, I feel so good about Kait and this season again! She shows more layers than previous Bachelorettes, and she probably ended up single because she feels guilty about what happened.

I can't wait to see what happened in Ireland, especially what happened with Dr. C.

If my prediction is right, and if Nick really likes her, I really hope he will continue to go after her no matter what!

Honestly, the bolded blows my mind because I disagree so strongly and really have trouble seeing this viewpoint. If someone doesn't want to be with you, going after them, pursuing them, showing up where they're staying, etc., is scary to me. I don't find anything romantic about it. Moreover, I think it perpetuates a really, really unhealthy culture where, "No means yes if you ask enough times or show up in enough places and try hard enough." 

After seeing the preview, I'm thrilled she walked away alone. The only man whose loving arms she needs right now are that of a therapist imo. Also, to borrow from a super cheesy but totally appropriate Pinterest quote, "She needed a hero so she had to become one," rings more true than anything to me in this situation. You got this, Kait!

[Guest]

Interesting to read more ealier comments.
Just curious to know why the marjority here already thought the sex guy was Nick? because RS said so?

I felt bad before the premier knowing Kait chose no one, because I kind of wondered was she really in it for fame, wondered did she really lead Shawn/Nick on too much just to dump them at the alter.

But after watching the season preview, I feel so good about Kait and this season again! She shows more layers than previous Bachelorettes, and she probably ended up single because she feels guilty about what happened.

I can't wait to see what happened in Ireland, especially what happened with Dr. C.

If my prediction is right, and if Nick really likes her, I really hope he will continue to go after her no matter what!

I assumed it was Nick before I saw the RS tweet for a couple of reasons - 1. the edit made it look like she was falling in love with all these men and it was going great and then dun-dun-dun (literally, that was the music ) Nick comes in and she sleeps with someone and things go to hell. And so I assumed that someone was Nick.

The second thing was - their chemistry is ridiculous. She ran up to him and kissed him in the first scene and then she was so excited when talking about him - "It's Nick!!!" and them making out against the red door. She seems to have incredible chemistry with him, so I assumed that was the one that went too far.

Honestly, if it weren't for the crying and the guilt she's obviously feeling in this, just the scenes of Nick and Kaitlyn, they both look so happy. I really think if she didn't choose someone, it's because the process got to her - either she couldn't handle dating all of these simultaneously and then one of them went too far, or something about being (on) "The Bachelorette" messed her up. But if they weren't in this process, and just going off their 5 second chemistry we see in this video, I very much think that these two can and should figure things out/get back together/rekindle their relationship. I can totally see it working, of course unless something else ridiculous happens between them during the season.

RS says it's improbable that Kaitlyn will take either Nick or Shawn back in ATFR... but then that's just RS. He's like the most pessimistic, annoying idiot... and that might be true with a regular Bachelor(ette) contestant, but if there were ever two people that I feel have been genuine on the show in the last few years that I've watched (I'm going to get bashed for this :halo: ) it's Kaitlyn and Nick.

So please, Kaitlyn and Nick --- WORK IT OUT, YOU TWO!

[sara11]

I cannot wait to see the absolute trainwreck/most dramatic ATFR ever!!

[Guest]

Interesting to read more ealier comments.
Just curious to know why the marjority here already thought the sex guy was Nick? because RS said so?

I felt bad before the premier knowing Kait chose no one, because I kind of wondered was she really in it for fame, wondered did she really lead Shawn/Nick on too much just to dump them at the alter.

But after watching the season preview, I feel so good about Kait and this season again! She shows more layers than previous Bachelorettes, and she probably ended up single because she feels guilty about what happened.

I can't wait to see what happened in Ireland, especially what happened with Dr. C.

If my prediction is right, and if Nick really likes her, I really hope he will continue to go after her no matter what!

Honestly, the bolded blows my mind because I disagree so strongly and really have trouble seeing this viewpoint. If someone doesn't want to be with you, going after them, pursuing them, showing up where they're staying, etc., is scary to me. I don't find anything romantic about it. Moreover, I think it perpetuates a really, really unhealthy culture where, "No means yes if you ask enough times or show up in enough places and try hard enough." 

After seeing the preview, I'm thrilled she walked away alone. The only man whose loving arms she needs right now are that of a therapist imo. Also, to borrow from a super cheesy but totally appropriate Pinterest quote, "She needed a hero so she had to become one," rings more true than anything to me in this situation. You got this, Kait!

I agree with you - if Kaitlyn really doesn't want a relationship with Nick at the end of this, he really should back off. The little we see though, I see her into him. That of course could change over the course of the season/post season. But if the process of "The Bachelorette" is what gets in between them, and they both can see that and agree with that, then I would really be happy to see them together. we'll see how it goes.

[Guest]

Interesting to read more ealier comments.
Just curious to know why the marjority here already thought the sex guy was Nick? because RS said so?

I felt bad before the premier knowing Kait chose no one, because I kind of wondered was she really in it for fame, wondered did she really lead Shawn/Nick on too much just to dump them at the alter.

But after watching the season preview, I feel so good about Kait and this season again! She shows more layers than previous Bachelorettes, and she probably ended up single because she feels guilty about what happened.

I can't wait to see what happened in Ireland, especially what happened with Dr. C.

If my prediction is right, and if Nick really likes her, I really hope he will continue to go after her no matter what!

Honestly, the bolded blows my mind because I disagree so strongly and really have trouble seeing this viewpoint. If someone doesn't want to be with you, going after them, pursuing them, showing up where they're staying, etc., is scary to me. I don't find anything romantic about it. Moreover, I think it perpetuates a really, really unhealthy culture where, "No means yes if you ask enough times or show up in enough places and try hard enough." 

After seeing the preview, I'm thrilled she walked away alone. The only man whose loving arms she needs right now are that of a therapist imo. Also, to borrow from a super cheesy but totally appropriate Pinterest quote, "She needed a hero so she had to become one," rings more true than anything to me in this situation. You got this, Kait!

I guess we can all agree that, K and N have off the chart chemistry. And I predict she rejected him because of the guilt she has with the sex guy, who I think is Dr C, then why not go after her again??

I dun mean to go after her when she just didn't feel it with him.
I think this is a huge huge difference

[Guest]

Interesting to read more ealier comments.
Just curious to know why the marjority here already thought the sex guy was Nick? because RS said so?

I felt bad before the premier knowing Kait chose no one, because I kind of wondered was she really in it for fame, wondered did she really lead Shawn/Nick on too much just to dump them at the alter.

But after watching the season preview, I feel so good about Kait and this season again! She shows more layers than previous Bachelorettes, and she probably ended up single because she feels guilty about what happened.

I can't wait to see what happened in Ireland, especially what happened with Dr. C.

If my prediction is right, and if Nick really likes her, I really hope he will continue to go after her no matter what!

I assumed it was Nick before I saw the RS tweet for a couple of reasons - 1. the edit made it look like she was falling in love with all these men and it was going great and then dun-dun-dun (literally, that was the music ) Nick comes in and she sleeps with someone and things go to hell. And so I assumed that someone was Nick.

The second thing was - their chemistry is ridiculous. She ran up to him and kissed him in the first scene and then she was so excited when talking about him - "It's Nick!!!" and them making out against the red door. She seems to have incredible chemistry with him, so I assumed that was the one that went too far.

Honestly, if it weren't for the crying and the guilt she's obviously feeling in this, just the scenes of Nick and Kaitlyn, they both look so happy. I really think if she didn't choose someone, it's because the process got to her - either she couldn't handle dating all of these simultaneously and then one of them went too far, or something about being (on) "The Bachelorette" messed her up. But if they weren't in this process, and just going off their 5 second chemistry we see in this video, I very much think that these two can and should figure things out/get back together/rekindle their relationship. I can totally see it working, of course unless something else ridiculous happens between them during the season.

RS says it's improbable that Kaitlyn will take either Nick or Shawn back in ATFR... but then that's just RS. He's like the most pessimistic, annoying idiot... and that might be true with a regular Bachelor(ette) contestant, but if there were ever two people that I feel have been genuine on the show in the last few years that I've watched (I'm going to get bashed for this :halo: ) it's Kaitlyn and Nick.

So please, Kaitlyn and Nick --- WORK IT OUT, YOU TWO!

I too think these 2, K&N are one of the most genuine!!
I hope to see these two work, the few seconds we saw in the preview already proved how strongly they feel for eah other

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