The Bachelorette 11 - Kaitlyn Bristowe - Britt Nilsson - Edit Analysis - *Sleuthing - Spoilers*
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Re: The Bachelorette 11 - Kaitlyn Bristowe - Britt Nilsson - Edit Analysis - *Sleuthing - Spoilers*
http://abc.go.com/shows/the-bachelorette/news/updates/nick-viall-returns-bachelorette-kaitlyn-bristowe-andi-dorfman-150608
more edit suggestions -- no longer painted as villain curious why ch still does that looking forward to ch's interview next week
more edit suggestions -- no longer painted as villain curious why ch still does that looking forward to ch's interview next week
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Re: The Bachelorette 11 - Kaitlyn Bristowe - Britt Nilsson - Edit Analysis - *Sleuthing - Spoilers*
Rewatched episode 2. Strong concentration camera-pan-wise on how excited a few of the guys were that K was chosen as Ette. Most notably, Shawn.
Also with regards to PIs, she did this one on Night 1: hair is the same "I wanna talk to that Shawn guy again..."
This PI taken at another time (same location & dress, but hair is slightly different (hair more polished and not tucked behind her left ear)
as she gushes "...kissing Shawn is like...having your first kiss....etc."
She seemed awfully excited in this one. Something to ponder. I don't know how much weight these PIs carry...
Also with regards to PIs, she did this one on Night 1: hair is the same "I wanna talk to that Shawn guy again..."
This PI taken at another time (same location & dress, but hair is slightly different (hair more polished and not tucked behind her left ear)
as she gushes "...kissing Shawn is like...having your first kiss....etc."
She seemed awfully excited in this one. Something to ponder. I don't know how much weight these PIs carry...
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Re: The Bachelorette 11 - Kaitlyn Bristowe - Britt Nilsson - Edit Analysis - *Sleuthing - Spoilers*
I'm convinced the PI she gave about "Ian" in ep3 that there's "something about this human being" is also about Shawn. She's not even into Ian! Please.
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Re: The Bachelorette 11 - Kaitlyn Bristowe - Britt Nilsson - Edit Analysis - *Sleuthing - Spoilers*
https://www.yahoo.com/tv/chris-harrison-bachelorette-blog-121044926525.html
this CH blog post very clearly outlines to me there was a VERY deliberate decision to drop the villain edit on nick this is fascinating to me cos it is diametrically different from the tvguide interview CH gave about this week - I assume last week?
www.tvguide.com/news/the-bachelorette-nick-kaitlyn/
Also this tweet: .@chrisbharrison saw @kaitlynbristowe's eyes light up when she saw Nick. Take a peek at his blog:
SO what gives?????
they could easily easily throw the language into shady areas but they aren't even the "post nick world" doesn't put blame on nick and even how he talked about how nick behaves with the guys is very much "he didn't care"
no smugness, arrogance etc. mention which was part of nick's previous season and early this season edit!!! WOW I'm kinda mindblown and intrigued and glad they're letting him be who he actually is on this show
It started with the US weekly article and it's continued on -- on social media in the episode and NOW even CH!!! crazy to me
this CH blog post very clearly outlines to me there was a VERY deliberate decision to drop the villain edit on nick this is fascinating to me cos it is diametrically different from the tvguide interview CH gave about this week - I assume last week?
www.tvguide.com/news/the-bachelorette-nick-kaitlyn/
Also this tweet: .@chrisbharrison saw @kaitlynbristowe's eyes light up when she saw Nick. Take a peek at his blog:
SO what gives?????
they could easily easily throw the language into shady areas but they aren't even the "post nick world" doesn't put blame on nick and even how he talked about how nick behaves with the guys is very much "he didn't care"
no smugness, arrogance etc. mention which was part of nick's previous season and early this season edit!!! WOW I'm kinda mindblown and intrigued and glad they're letting him be who he actually is on this show
It started with the US weekly article and it's continued on -- on social media in the episode and NOW even CH!!! crazy to me
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Re: The Bachelorette 11 - Kaitlyn Bristowe - Britt Nilsson - Edit Analysis - *Sleuthing - Spoilers*
From the link upthread posted by emusha.
I need to find a pooh smilie.
and once we figured out he was in New York and we were headed there, we were like, "OK, this is where you can show up and talk to her and whatever happens, happens."
I need to find a pooh smilie.
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Re: The Bachelorette 11 - Kaitlyn Bristowe - Britt Nilsson - Edit Analysis - *Sleuthing - Spoilers*
GuardianAngel wrote:From the link upthread posted by emusha.and once we figured out he was in New York and we were headed there, we were like, "OK, this is where you can show up and talk to her and whatever happens, happens."
I need to find a pooh smilie.
I like this one.
It makes me laugh because it was speculated on this board for almost three weeks before Nick actually showed up. Also he was in LA the weekend before his appearance. But sure they only figured it out once he was in NYC. Yep.
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Re: The Bachelorette 11 - Kaitlyn Bristowe - Britt Nilsson - Edit Analysis - *Sleuthing - Spoilers*
Exactly blu.
and here he is! TY!
oops maybe not.
ETA: Little stinker, wouldn't work the first time.
and here he is! TY!
oops maybe not.
ETA: Little stinker, wouldn't work the first time.
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Re: The Bachelorette 11 - Kaitlyn Bristowe - Britt Nilsson - Edit Analysis - *Sleuthing - Spoilers*
emusha wrote:https://www.yahoo.com/tv/chris-harrison-bachelorette-blog-121044926525.html
this CH blog post very clearly outlines to me there was a VERY deliberate decision to drop the villain edit on nick this is fascinating to me cos it is diametrically different from the tvguide interview CH gave about this week - I assume last week?
www.tvguide.com/news/the-bachelorette-nick-kaitlyn/
Also this tweet: .@chrisbharrison saw @kaitlynbristowe's eyes light up when she saw Nick. Take a peek at his blog:
SO what gives?????
they could easily easily throw the language into shady areas but they aren't even the "post nick world" doesn't put blame on nick and even how he talked about how nick behaves with the guys is very much "he didn't care"
no smugness, arrogance etc. mention which was part of nick's previous season and early this season edit!!! WOW I'm kinda mindblown and intrigued and glad they're letting him be who he actually is on this show
It started with the US weekly article and it's continued on -- on social media in the episode and NOW even CH!!! crazy to me
Emusha, one true way to know what a casts edit will be is to watch is tweets made by the @bacheloretteabc account. That account was brutal to Nick 1.0, but hasn't been the same way, this time around. So yes, I agree with you that Nick 2.0 won't be getting a villian edit. I would almost bet on it...
...except for the fact that this season's casts are being edited to be two faced. Nice and funny in one episode and all villainous by the next. Still, I don't think Nick will get a villain edit. The ultimate villain role is being reserved for the lead!
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JC what's really interesting to me is that this shift happened in the last 2 weeks!!
i.e his edit was different 2 weeks ago def more aligned with the villain edit
i.e his edit was different 2 weeks ago def more aligned with the villain edit
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Re: The Bachelorette 11 - Kaitlyn Bristowe - Britt Nilsson - Edit Analysis - *Sleuthing - Spoilers*
julychild wrote:
Emusha, one true way to know what a casts edit will be is to watch is tweets made by the @bacheloretteabc account. That account was brutal to Nick 1.0, but hasn't been the same way, this time around. So yes, I agree with you that Nick 2.0 won't be getting a villian edit. I would almost bet on it...
...except for the fact that this season's casts are being edited to be two faced. Nice and funny in one episode and all villainous by the next. Still, I don't think Nick will get a villain edit. The ultimate villain role is being reserved for the lead!
JC, thanks for the heads up. Will def check it out!!
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A majority of the viewing audience may not be pro-Nick or perhaps unsure about him, so they may be softening Nick's edit to garner more support for him sticking around long term or a possible F1 ending.
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Emusha, I'm basing my assumptions of how things went "down" on the 1st preview and I've seen only the part of Nick coming "back" in 4th episode ... so are you saying new preview and episodes might not be in the same spirit as the 1st preview?
If that's correct, then I would assume that they wanted to promote the season for his arrival, almost to make it a point where things start rolling (making it another beginning?) and play with people's emotions so that they would be hyped for "shooting Nick down" ... because in all honesty, IMO, often negative emotions prevail among viewers of the reality shows (everyone loves to "hate" and criticize others, 'coz it's easy) - just like on SM - the groups that have something to say against are more prevalent than "individuals" who would express admiration, support (this is not just about Nick)... and if the edit after the "bomb" doesn't support that hype... I'm wondering how will TPTB make Nick's character interesting if they take his villainous appeal away? They can't just make him boring ... there needs to be something to make people care (enough to be agitated, irritated, ...) by his character. (For some reason I still can't see people switching sides and actually rooting for him)
- ETA:
OK, it's a version I was contemplating, but don't think TPTB would be that "crafty": Kaitlyn is portrayed as a "loose end" (with the whole sexcapade preview TPTB already achieved that the audience is now questioning Kaitlyn's legitimate reasons to find a husband) ... so maybe the audience will be persuaded to root for their favorite guy (not Nick) to not end up with Kaitlyn and giving Nick a free pass ... and maybe even understanding him? ... But that's only if they are prepping for Nick to be F1. If he is not ... there's no need to make people empathize with him.
If that's correct, then I would assume that they wanted to promote the season for his arrival, almost to make it a point where things start rolling (making it another beginning?) and play with people's emotions so that they would be hyped for "shooting Nick down" ... because in all honesty, IMO, often negative emotions prevail among viewers of the reality shows (everyone loves to "hate" and criticize others, 'coz it's easy) - just like on SM - the groups that have something to say against are more prevalent than "individuals" who would express admiration, support (this is not just about Nick)... and if the edit after the "bomb" doesn't support that hype... I'm wondering how will TPTB make Nick's character interesting if they take his villainous appeal away? They can't just make him boring ... there needs to be something to make people care (enough to be agitated, irritated, ...) by his character. (For some reason I still can't see people switching sides and actually rooting for him)
- ETA:
OK, it's a version I was contemplating, but don't think TPTB would be that "crafty": Kaitlyn is portrayed as a "loose end" (with the whole sexcapade preview TPTB already achieved that the audience is now questioning Kaitlyn's legitimate reasons to find a husband) ... so maybe the audience will be persuaded to root for their favorite guy (not Nick) to not end up with Kaitlyn and giving Nick a free pass ... and maybe even understanding him? ... But that's only if they are prepping for Nick to be F1. If he is not ... there's no need to make people empathize with him.
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