The Bachelorette 11 - Kaitlyn Bristowe - # 3 *Sleuthing - Spoilers* - Discussion

Great sleuthing going on in here! I enjoyed catching up!

2observe, I'm half asleep so I may not make much sense: I'm talking about the first preview (since E! has geo-restrictions I guess). Maybe it's because of last season (CS), when they told the whole story during the 2nd RC, only doing opposite commentary over F2 women ... the fact that TPTB put "May the best man win..." just before Nick walks in... with all the negative responses afterwards, alluding that the edit will again showcase his inability to be part of the team (and for some reason that's not a good thing on this show, as long as you don't get too friendly), questioning his motives ... I don't know why would TPTB set up F1 for all people to hate and be against? ... Isn't the magic of their edit that they make people root for F1? ... And it was Nick they brought back, not some guy who people would be in favor of... and no edit will change that... especially while promoting everywhere Ryan Gosling of TB (associating him with a sweet romance).
What did Chris Manson say about Nick's arrival, "game-over" or "game changer"?
Either way ... it was "doomed from the start". That's MHO.
Any surprise in seeing Nick actually winning someone's heart will be happily accepted.

ETA: I do have another version of "the play" in my mind, where Nick could be F1, but it's too elaborate and I've learned that with TPTB it's better to go the simplest and easiest way. They don't like to sweat, they make the contestants feel the heat.

happygolucky wrote:2observe, I'm half asleep so I may not make much sense: I'm talking about the first preview (since E! has geo-restrictions I guess). Maybe it's because of last season (CS), when they told the whole story during the 2nd RC, only doing opposite commentary over F2 women ... the fact that TPTB put "May the best man win..." just before Nick walks in... with all the negative responses afterwards, alluding that the edit will again showcase his inability to be part of the team (and for some reason that's not a good thing on this show, as long as you don't get too friendly), questioning his motives ... I don't know why would TPTB set up F1 for all people to hate and be against? ... Isn't the magic of their edit that they make people root for F1? ... And it was Nick they brought back, not some guy who people would be in favor of... and no edit will change that... especially while promoting everywhere Ryan Gosling of TB (associating him with a sweet romance).
What did Chris Manson say about Nick's arrival, "game-over" or "game changer"?
Either way ... it was "doomed from the start". That's MHO.
Any surprise in seeing Nick actually winning someone's heart will be happily accepted.

Just remember that it's pretty obvious that the connection between Nick and Kaitlyn is so strong, so I'm not surprised that TPTB are talking negative about Nick.  IMO, they are trying really hard to down play the connection between the two, because the connection with Shawn is not as strong but they need us to believe that Kaitlyn will either choose Shawn or no one.  

Can someone remind me how we confirmed K's s/chat about taco's was in Arizona?

Canadians go to warmer climate in the winter, not in the summer so I'm wondering how we came to that conclusion. TYIA

GA, I don't know if that was confirmed where her s/chat was taken but she was spotted in an Apple Store in San Tan Valley, AZ yesterday. And the GPS on her IG pic from Monday had the same location.

good one GA, because I don't know either, someone wrote that and it's just kept rolling. Was it because of the kitchen setting? I really would like to know too and I keep asking everyone, who keeps track of K's snapchats to post, because she is often silent on Twitter, IG even more, but these snapchats could be more revealing (at least about the "timing".

Thanks blu. I missed that!

Maybe this has been discussed (sorry if it has!)

These are 2 different locations (& seperate conversations spliced together to look like they are all having the serious "I had sex" talk) I believe:

yellow couch, creamy slatted wall


brown couch, brick wall


yellow couch

Does Nick have to sit there and listen as Kait tells them all they had sex? That seems a little unreal. I bet Steve is right on this and she told them 1:1 and this is just a promo.

^^ I think a lot of the s/caps have been sleuthed in the s/caps thread. Not sure about the brown couch one but the others were sleuthed.

Alanna wrote:Does Nick have to sit there and listen as Kait tells them all they had sex? That seems a little unreal. I bet Steve is right on this and she told them 1:1 and this is just a promo.

I don' think she told the crowd either. It would be more of a 1-on-1 conversation.

But this promo makes it look like Nick, Jared, & Ben H. are not the man she did the deed with.

The s/caps were sleuthed. The brown couch I don't believe has been located.

How do we know that K tells the guys she had sex with Nick?