Nick Viall - Bachelorette 11 - *Spoilers - Sleuthing* - Discussion

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Dylan, in his interview, said that when there were 11 guys left he, Chris, and Brian were told one of them would likely be the next Bach and that Josh would probably be F1.  This leads me to conclude that Andi probably knew her final 4 and that their parents were made aware there was likely going to be a HTD.

Nick came in when there were 11 so if the pattern holds true, he was likely 1 of Kaitlyn's probably final 4 at that point and the Vialls were contacted.  I think this because the radio spot says "a few weeks ago". 

Would love it to be true though.  Fingers crossed that Nick & Kaitlyn are building a relationship.

notarose wrote:Dylan, in his interview, said that when there were 11 guys left he, Chris, and Brian were told one of them would likely be the next Bach and that Josh would probably be F1.  This leads me to conclude that Andi probably knew her final 4 and that their parents were made aware there was likely going to be a HTD.

Nick came in when there were 11 so if the pattern holds true, he was likely 1 of Kaitlyn's probably final 4 at that point and the Vialls were contacted.  I think this because the radio spot says "a few weeks ago". 

Would love it to be true though.  Fingers crossed that Nick & Kaitlyn are building a relationship.

Sure do hope so.

bluwavz wrote:I posted this link in the fan thread as well. Elizabeth from 99.1 The Mix said she heard from a source close to Nick's camp that the film crews would be going to Wisconsin in a few weeks to film. This was when Nick first appeared on the show.

http://media.991themix.com/a/103668433/breaking-bachelor-news.htm?q=nick+viall

To steal from Elanick..... :/ (my computer likes to freeze lately) I cannot play the above. Did it sound like filming would for sure be happening or more of just a possiblility IF Nick was in F4?

MonicaJM2001 wrote:

bluwavz wrote:I posted this link in the fan thread as well. Elizabeth from 99.1 The Mix said she heard from a source close to Nick's camp that the film crews would be going to Wisconsin in a few weeks to film. This was when Nick first appeared on the show.

http://media.991themix.com/a/103668433/breaking-bachelor-news.htm?q=nick+viall

To steal from Elanick..... :/ (my computer likes to freeze lately) I cannot play the above. Did it sound like filming would for sure be happening or more of just a possiblility IF Nick was in F4?

IMO : Sounds like it is a sure thing the host Elizabeth said she has a source that told her. Said they were going to be there in a couple of weeks. People were calling in giving advice where Nick should take her.

notarose wrote:Dylan, in his interview, said that when there were 11 guys left he, Chris, and Brian were told one of them would likely be the next Bach and that Josh would probably be F1.  This leads me to conclude that Andi probably knew her final 4 and that their parents were made aware there was likely going to be a HTD.

Nick came in when there were 11 so if the pattern holds true, he was likely 1 of Kaitlyn's probably final 4 at that point and the Vialls were contacted.  I think this because the radio spot says "a few weeks ago". 

Would love it to be true though.  Fingers crossed that Nick & Kaitlyn are building a relationship.

I hope so too. I really want my Kanick inkings prior to all this Bachelorette chaos to prove true and real. It will be interesting to see just how the they handle the airing of Kanick in NY and what part of the conversation(s) they will show. Obviously they will play to the majority of viewers which fall into unspoiled territory and probably don't know all that much of Kanick being cutesy with each other on SM. Will any hint be given regarding the pre-Bachelorette announcement flirtations on SM? Will the producers make it seem like Nick just decided on a whim to come on the show and not reference any prior to filming attraction? RS information has Nick joining the show the night of that group date so there was still probably one or two dates left to do after that. I wonder if he was automatically going to SA just by Kaitlyn allowing him to come on the show that night or if he still had to get a rose at the RC? I would think he had to have joined the group towards the top tier of F4 possibilities for there to even be a mention of possible filming a few weeks later............

notarose wrote:Dylan, in his interview, said that when there were 11 guys left he, Chris, and Brian were told one of them would likely be the next Bach and that Josh would probably be F1.  This leads me to conclude that Andi probably knew her final 4 and that their parents were made aware there was likely going to be a HTD.

Nick came in when there were 11 so if the pattern holds true, he was likely 1 of Kaitlyn's probably final 4 at that point and the Vialls were contacted.  I think this because the radio spot says "a few weeks ago". 

Would love it to be true though.  Fingers crossed that Nick & Kaitlyn are building a relationship.

Great logic but I do think tptb say whatever they need to say to get the F7 to act and say the things they need
e.g. follow the suggestions of tptb to be considered as TB potential

ETA: Just listened to this show and it's actually from late march -- so had been previously discussed as a prediction -- sorry got confused thought we got another specific confirmation at this F4 stage....but it's from much earlier during filming

emusha wrote:

notarose wrote:Dylan, in his interview, said that when there were 11 guys left he, Chris, and Brian were told one of them would likely be the next Bach and that Josh would probably be F1.  This leads me to conclude that Andi probably knew her final 4 and that their parents were made aware there was likely going to be a HTD.

Nick came in when there were 11 so if the pattern holds true, he was likely 1 of Kaitlyn's probably final 4 at that point and the Vialls were contacted.  I think this because the radio spot says "a few weeks ago". 

Would love it to be true though.  Fingers crossed that Nick & Kaitlyn are building a relationship.

Great logic but I do think tptb say whatever they need to say to get the F7 to act and say the things they need
e.g. follow the suggestions of tptb to be considered as TB potential

ETA: Just listened to this show and it's actually from late march -- so had been previously discussed as a prediction -- sorry got confused thought we got another specific confirmation at this F4 stage....but it's from much earlier during filming

Yes, too soon for the source to know based on Kaitlyn & Nick spending time together on the show.

I think Nick has a huge deal breaker.  
No matter how great their chemistry might be, I highly doubt he would be prepared to not attempt to conceive in the next 2-3 yrs if he were to get engaged.  That would put him at 36-37 yrs old. If Kaitlyn has aspirations in the entertainment industry that are large scale (not, for example, something that could be done in Chicago or not mostly nights/weekends) then IMO he will either leave or attempt to have her save face by gently making her aware of this so that she can be the one to let him go.  Again, IMO he was extremely keen to get to her know her but he is also a man who knows what he needs and as much as he is prepared to invest time in a potential life partner he is also not one to waste it on a person who is not authentically on the same page even if he went into this with the highest of hopes. I think Kaitlyn is great and a significantly better match for Nick personality-wise than previously but I think the future vision of these two will have been addressed before the HTD and that will be pivotal.  I can't see it not happening before Nick commits to involving his family.  
I wouldn't consider it a test in anyway.  It is merely an honest discussion that has to happen before either can fully open themselves to the vulnerability essential to a deep love. 

The anticipation is killing me  .  Can we please have a love song worthy of the minstrel. 

bluwavz wrote:I posted this link in the fan thread as well. Elizabeth from 99.1 The Mix said she heard from a source close to Nick's camp that the film crews would be going to Wisconsin in a few weeks to film. This was when Nick first appeared on the show.

http://media.991themix.com/a/103668433/breaking-bachelor-news.htm?q=nick+viall

My question though, how could they know that if the RC isn't until today/tonight?

NR -- imho -- i actually don't see nick as having been bit by the baby bug... I think he's an absolute romantic and just craves for "his person" who he can be with and be romantic with...i can see him being ok with just being together -- are there any clues u noticed that make you think he's in the "let's build a family" mode a bit? he obviously waited this long -- i think it's so that he could get it right with the girl he picks for him....the partner being a priority over settling with someone at a younger age and popping out the babies....