Re: Married At First Sight - Season 2 - Sean Varricchio - Davina Kullar - *Sleuthing - Spoilers*

by Guest Thu Apr 23, 2015 4:20 pm

Ruqibabe wrote:I really wish she had agreed to stay at his place until her apartment was ready. That would have been a good compromise on her part. Just for the month

Ruqibabe wrote:. I also wish she had comforted him when he was freaking out/having anxiety abt moving. That would have calmed him IMO. She just was thinking abt her feeling not his. Its easy not to see all that when you are on the inside.

I also really wish she hadn't favorite/liked/retweeted some mean SM msgs. It really made Sean seem like the bigger person.

Yes! Yes-Great idea! That would have shown some compromise on her part and help Sean adjust on the weekends. A month in NJ would not have killed Princess Manhattan Davina!

NJ Transit can get her to the city in less than an hour.

by moonpie Thu Apr 23, 2015 4:28 pm

JerseyNurse wrote:Sean is a master manipulator and people who are narcissistic sociopaths have mastered the art of deceit.
I understand that viewers, who have no inside connection, find it hard to believe that this man could possibly be the way we portray him. Like I said, he is a master at his trade.

From the beginning, he bragged that this would open the doors to other TV opportunities. I was THERE when he said it. This is what he wanted and in doing so, his dirty laundry is out there for all to possibly see.

Everything Notablogperson is saying is TRUE.

I do believe everything you and Notablogperson have posted and appreciate the info. Smiley

I don't, however, see Davina as a blameless victim. I can believe that he may be an awful person, but that doesn't negate the fact that she is coming across as a bit unyielding and high strung. One thing doesn't necessarily have to do with the other.

In real time, the RT and favoriting negative tweets comes off as a little bitter and taking the low road, no?

by Kashathediva Thu Apr 23, 2015 4:28 pm

Steel2009 wrote:
Ruqibabe wrote:I really wish she had agreed to stay at his place until her apartment was ready. That would have been a good compromise on her part. Just for the month
Ruqibabe wrote:. I also wish she had comforted him when he was freaking out/having anxiety abt moving. That would have calmed him IMO. She just was thinking abt her feeling not his. Its easy not to see all that when you are on the inside.

I also really wish she hadn't favorite/liked/retweeted some mean SM msgs. It really made Sean seem like the bigger person.

Yes! Yes-Great idea! That would have shown some compromise on her part and help Sean adjust on the weekends. 1 month in NJ!! A month in NJ would not have killed Princess Manhattan Davina!

There are trains all over jersey that can get her to the city in less than an hour.

I don't follow this show--only through these threads.
However, I do live in NJ and my SIL does commute daily to lower Manhattan. Let's just say that would not be a small compromise. It's relative.
Most commutes do take close to an hour or more. From my home to my SIL's job--90 minutes, from my SIL's home to work--an hour. This is on a day the trains, subways or ferries are not messed up. This is from a commute of less than 20 miles--more like 15.
If you are in love and the relationship is working, an inconvenience that might be a PITA is minor. If the relationship isn't working, a pea under the mattress feels like Mt. Rushmore.
Not to mention, that not all NJ town are alike. There are some you couldn't get me to move to!

by pandora48 Thu Apr 23, 2015 4:43 pm

jlccaz wrote:My prediction is that when dust settles, Dr. C. will be back to the drawing board on why his tests and interviews did not "red flag" the pathology of Sean's personality and character. Shared childhood trauma is a really screwed-up basis to match people (and yes, I know there were many other factors evaluated and weighed). BUT, that's my opinion.

As to Sean specifically, at a very elemental level, like lower brain stem reptile brain, when he talks, the hair on the back of your neck stands up (metaphorically speaking). His eyes do not match his words. There is some pathology at work there that Dr. C. missed bigtime, I really believe this. For a matchmaking show to take a bet on this guy is nuts to me. Viewers have been shown many red flags, and I think the EDIT is pointing to understanding why this match did not work. Again, just my opinion.

-- he WAY Overplayed "It" at the reception,
-- he had an Anger Management episode in the midst of taping a reality TV show (this would chill one's instinct for angry outbursts)
-- socio-pathic lack of empathy in every day discourse (edit has revealed a few of these moments) notwithstanding selection of nursing as occupation (there's something in that to be explored)
-- a familiar pattern of people come the internet to "out him" (crazy things happen on the internet, yes all have to acknowledge, but among those as Bachelor boardies will tell you, is that people who draw this sort of board commenting pattern probably do have issues in real life -- it takes a lot to choose to make an account and write something and hit send, as an adult with a job, etc.)
-- he just plays as pathologically insincere when he is talking to Davina about serious things -- his apology, etc. (Except when talking about himself as a victim)
-- he resorts to "pleasing" words but when you watch it back on video, it seems more like a shrewd choice to avoid the real conflict, and avoid a real interaction

I could go on. But that's my prediction, one-third into the season.

Davina is a big "meh" to me as well, by the way. So, I'm not saying she was a victim. I don't have a read on her.

I think this was a messed-up matching idea from day one though.

I had to join to say this is an excellent post. The red flags started going off for me very early on, and by the end of episode 3, I said to someone that this dude's a sociopath. I feel somewhat vindicated when reading this thread, especially the information by JerseyNurse and others.

I find it extremely disturbing that the so called experts missed all the glaring red flags with Sean. All the things that some viewers were able to pick up on right away. My only hope is that they didn't miss it, but simply decided to cast him anyways cause he made good TV.

The biggest red flag to me was just the seemingly lack of empathy. He's very animated but really there's nothing behind his eyes. It's empty. He asks you questions, but doesn't care about your answer... cause he's too busy thinking of his own response. He doesn't seem to have the ability to truly love or feel anything other than feeling sorry for himself.

They messed up by pairing up Sean with Davina, who happens to be a very smart woman. Sean would do well with someone naive who isn't able to see through his BS, and pick up on the red flags.

by Ruqibabe Thu Apr 23, 2015 4:48 pm

My point though is you ease people into a big change like that. You don't nag him when he is trying his best, you comfort him. That's what was missing on Tuesday's episode. People check out fast when you nag them. Silence is golden.

She also has a way of talking to him like a child. I understand she was formerly a teacher. As a former teacher myself, we are taught to spell things out for our pupil but it doesn't work for one's spouse. I really like Davina. I just think there are things she could have hande better.

Sean isn't blameless in all these. He didn't communicate his fear of moving (or maybe it was edited out). He was a YES Man

I hope Davina is learning from rewatching the show and not just being defensive.

by Notablogperson Thu Apr 23, 2015 4:58 pm

mindless wrote:
Notablogperson wrote:Even after I try to come here & give some clarity on the two of these people who I personally know, people still sit her & doubt seans real personality traits & want to talk about Davina not compromising. Davina compromised not talking to her family because of this marriage, which IMO is one of the biggest compromises of them all. Her family did not agree with this marriage, & she wanted to find love, so she went on the show, & her family stopped talking to her. So, when you want to talk about someone compromising, that's huge. Seans family, didn't agree with the marriage either, Bc of Sean ups & downs, ask his brother who talked about on camera, that his brother was mentally unstable. When Sean signed up for the show, he knew that he was moving to NYC, you are not shown that from the editing, he made absolutely no compromise. Like I said earlier, he only came to NYC to film, not to be with Davina or be a husband.

No one here finds it funny, that now all of a sudden, All of Seans post are about, breast cancer, bullying, Boston marathon victims, autism, miscarriages, teachers who help kids with disabilities.. Come on now, this guy isn't trying to come off as thee biggest saint.. This is all such BS, & some of the viewers who don't even know him, have already said something seems way off about this guy but they can't pinpoint it. Well it's hard to pinpoint what's off about him, when the producers wil never show that negative side of him, that's why so many of their clips seem choppy. The viewers are so mislead by this couple, it's not even funny! What you won't see from the editing is Seans other bi-polar episodes, meltdowns & breakdowns off camera, which is why when you watch this couple, the clips really don't make much sense & it seems like there is a lot missing. Well, it's because there is! It's really sad that people can't see this!

Sorry, but Davina falling out with her family had nothing to do with Sean, so it doesn't qualify as compromise. A personal sacrifice maybe, but Sean didn't ask her to make it and her family would've reacted the same way no matter who she married, so no, not a compromise. Sean's move to Manhattan, however, was all about Davina, so that is a compromise. Not a very successful one though, if he never actually lived there. I don't think that's proof that he never intended to stay married though, or that he only wanted to be on TV. Maybe he went into it with the best of intentions but realised soon after the honeymoon that Davina isn't the woman he wants to be with for the rest of his life. In that case, isn't it good that he wasn't leading her on by sleeping with her and taking her on dates? Sounds like he didn't hide the fact that he was checked out, but completed the filming since he's probably required to by contract. Of course you can argue that he should've tried harder to make it work, but sometimes it's just not worth it. Davina doesn't seem like some grand prize so far, so I can't fault anyone for not wanting to be married to her. But we'll see what happens in future episodes. I have a hard time believing Davina wouldn't bring up Sean's supposed off camera meltdowns on camera though or that edit would purposely leave them out. What do they gain by making Davina the villain?

**Edited** Sean NEVER moved to Manhattan!!! **Edited** He wouldn't even visit her, unless it was for filming. And Davina was there for a million of his meltdowns during filming and comforted him every single time, that was the main reason why she was so bothered by the fact that the one time, she cried, he didn't even console her. Watch the clips!! And, He didn't go into this with good intentions. He wanted to FAME!! THATS IT

by pandora48 Thu Apr 23, 2015 5:07 pm

Davina to me is like Monet from last season. Yes, these women have their faults. But their spouses are just so flawed that it's hard for me to put much blame on them.

I think Davina is starting to see red flags with Sean, red flags that she doesn't know how to voice, so instead she's focusing on the small issues. For example, Sean had no problem showing her lots of over the top affection at their wedding when they had an audience, but it seems when it's just the two of them, there's no affection. Is it because she's a bit 'witchy' and demanding? Perhaps. However, anyone in her shoes would have to question just how genuine and sincere Sean is.

Some viewers find Sean creepy after watching him on TV for an hour each week. Imagine being with him 24/7? I imagine Davina saw a lot more "creepiness" than what has been shown to us.

The main flaw I see in Davina is her inability to want to compromise. Moving out of Manhattan should not be a deal breaker when it comes to love & marriage. I found that to be absurd and a bit immature.

by Ruqibabe Thu Apr 23, 2015 5:15 pm

pandora48 wrote:Davina to me is like Monet from last season. Yes, these women have their faults. But their spouses are just so flawed that it's hard for me to put much blame on them.

I think Davina is starting to see red flags with Sean, red flags that she doesn't know how to voice, so instead she's focusing on the small issues. For example, Sean had no problem showing her lots of over the top affection at their wedding when they had an audience, but it seems when it's just the two of them, there's no affection. Is it because she's a bit 'witchy' and demanding? Perhaps. However, anyone in her shoes would have to question just how genuine and sincere Sean is.

Some viewers find Sean creepy after watching him on TV for an hour each week. Imagine being with him 24/7? I imagine Davina saw a lot more "creepiness" than what has been shown to us.

The main flaw I see in Davina is her inability to want to compromise. Moving out of Manhattan should not be a deal breaker when it comes to love & marriage. I found that to be absurd and a bit immature.

I totally agree. She also could have tried being affectionate by initiating kisses and hugs. It felt like she was Just waiting for him to lead throughout.

by emusha Thu Apr 23, 2015 5:16 pm

Notablogperson wrote:

**Edited** Sean NEVER moved to Manhattan!!! **Edited** He wouldn't even visit her, unless it was for filming. And Davina was there for a million of his meltdowns during filming and comforted him every single time, that was the main reason why she was so bothered by the fact that the one time, she cried, he didn't even console her. Watch the clips!! And, He didn't go into this with good intentions. He wanted to FAME!! THATS IT

This is so interesting -- what would he meltdown over? over the move/commute? or you're saying he's mentally unstable on another level/on other issues -- in that case the experts seriously needed to have done more thorough screening with a lot of red flags davina can hold off from sex and get an annulment. I understand the sociopathy may not be immediately apparent so it's not all on the "experts" but still they need to build in better screening mechanisms if the man had large scale meltdowns

by **GuardianAngel** Thu Apr 23, 2015 5:19 pm

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by Guest Thu Apr 23, 2015 5:24 pm

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by MVMom39forever Thu Apr 23, 2015 5:46 pm

Since "sociopath" seems to be an often-used word to describe Sean in this thread, I looked it up and found this definition:"a person with a psychopathic personality whose behavior is antisocial, often criminal, and who lacks a sense of moral responsibility or social conscience."

Yikes, seems a rather harsh description based on highly edited tv show for someone who has managed to maintain a career in nursing and own a home.

I also noted on this thread that someone posted a link to Dr. C's Twitter account where he is calling out Davina for bullying behavior with her favoriting of tweets.

I then noted that JerseyNurse, who has described herself as Sean's coworker and finds him to have an "awful personality," said on thread 53 that "Sean is a good nurse. He knows his job and does it well."

So with that information, I then went to this website: http://www.healthecareers.com/article/top-10-characteristics-of-successful-nurses/173129 for what makes a good nurse and read that #1 on list is empathy followed by such traits as communication, intuition, emotional stability, patience and dedication.

I am guessing for Sean to maintain a career as an ER nurse at a reputable hospital, he must be able to demonstrate at least a few of these traits on a daily basis ... fair enough?

Surely there has to be some good in Sean just as there is good in Davina. Just seems that there is a far bigger urgency and passion in Davina's camp to control the message about the edit, which led me to this web search:

"The lady doth protest too much, methinks" is a quotation from the 1602 play Hamlet by William Shakespeare. It has been used as a figure of speech, in various phrasings, to indicate that a person's overly frequent or vehement attempts to convince others of something have ironically helped to convince others that the opposite is true, by making the person look insincere and defensive.

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